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DNA should be taken from babies (to fight crime) by DesertRat662006-12-13 10:23:58
  I like the honesty by varikin2006-12-13 10:47:00
    Shouldn't even be up for discussion IMO by DesertRat662006-12-13 10:51:01
      *blinks* by subbywan2006-12-13 10:53:00
        How about by DesertRat662006-12-13 10:55:26
          They already ID you at birth. by subbywan2006-12-13 10:57:48
            Not always by DesertRat662006-12-13 10:59:38
              But it's still fairly common, even if not by subbywan2006-12-13 11:01:49
                Just because something has some benefits by DesertRat662006-12-13 11:19:28
                  But just because it *MAY* have bad by subbywan2006-12-13 11:21:47
                    But I see it as the reverse... by jdelphiki2006-12-13 12:06:38
                      No, it doesn't hinder us at all. by subbywan2006-12-13 12:12:44
                        At what cost? by jdelphiki2006-12-13 12:26:46
                          "a huge intrusion on the rights and freedoms"? by Khaar2006-12-13 12:33:47
                            I explained... by jdelphiki2006-12-13 13:22:15
                              so then you're not against them having it, by subbywan2006-12-13 13:28:05
                                I'm quite against them having it... by jdelphiki 2006-12-13 13:38:30
...because I fully expect that they'll eventually get around to misusing it at their whim.

An example...

In the US, there is a federally-mandated law requiring cell phones to have GPS tracking chips. (this has been discussed here before, so let's not threadjack this thread into a full discussion of the new topic, folks)

The justification for this law and these chips, we were told, was to provide emergency operators (i.e. 911) the ability to directly locate someone who's calling them in an emergency...say, an accident where the person is injured enough to not know where he/she is. We were quite specifically told that the tracking chips would not be used for other purposes.

In Missouri, they're already planning on using the tracking chips to monitor traffic. All over, police use the tracking chips to locate criminals on the run. Other plans are in the works. Who knows what comes next?

Presumably, you're supposed to be able to turn off your phone and prevent the chip from tracking you. That is not the case. From what I've read, the phone, and/or the chip, can be activated remotely, from the cell phone towers.

I'm sure everyone has good intentions behind these chips and the expansion from the original intent for them. But the fact remains that said intent remains at the hands...the whim, if you will...of the government, not the people who own the phones. Now that the federally-mandated precedent is established, the sky's the limit.
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                                That's your responsibility. by subbywan2006-12-13 13:40:08
                                The problem is by MatthewDBA2006-12-13 13:41:28
                                That's true, to a degree. by subbywan2006-12-13 13:45:48
                                That's why... by jdelphiki2006-12-13 15:12:36
                                On the GPS thing ... by subbywan2006-12-13 15:14:32
                                Not only Disney, Verizon Wireless too. (n/t) by shorty822006-12-13 17:15:26
                                If such abuses were overt... by jdelphiki2006-12-13 13:45:17
                                See, I have no problem with a DNA DB. by subbywan2006-12-13 13:47:39
                                On such a large scale process... by jdelphiki2006-12-13 15:21:50
                                I see it just the other way around. by subbywan2006-12-13 15:31:42

 

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