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Oh boy, prepare for trouble in Iraq by Control 2006-11-05 02:24:02
And not just in Iraq, but throughout the middle east, and possibly in other parts of the world.

Hussein verdict: Death by Hanging. (no clicky necessary, it's all over the usual news channels)

This might have been the worst possible choice. Not only is there the whole martyr issue, but also other consequences:

- Using the death penalty will cost the new 'Iraqi Government' credibility in most countries of the world, where the death penalty is seen as a barbaric process. Adopting it is a further sign of the government being a puppet of the USA.
- The method of execution is an insult to people still supporting Hussein, Sunnis and others alike. Hanging is reserved for the common criminal in Islamic culture. Treating a former head of state that way is demeaning towards a whole section of the population.

The correct verdict would have been to have him rot in a cell for 15 or 20 years until he has faded into obscurity, then have him exiled by the (hopefully working, and finally credible) new Governemnt
[ Reply ]
  As opposed to the current state of affairs? (n/t) by BeanBandit2006-11-05 02:46:08
  How long tell the Current Terror Alert by imWACC02006-11-19 12:55:59
    Bwahahaha! (n/t) by dodrian2006-11-05 06:54:48
  Interesting precedent by oldphart2006-11-05 03:09:12
    This precedent is 60 years old. (n/t) by krikkert2006-11-05 03:22:10
      Old phart has forgotten about WWII by Cokish2006-11-05 03:53:46
  the only thing wrong with the deathpenalty by joecrouse2006-11-05 03:50:45
    Yeah, because we do such a GREAT job... by Ravenlock2006-11-05 03:55:20
      We dont do a good job its not used often enough by joecrouse2006-11-05 04:13:18
        40k a year, for a human life? by Control2006-11-05 04:21:40
          yes, and that we learned from the by zoxer2006-11-05 04:29:21
            Not genetic, its called Discipline by joecrouse2006-11-05 04:49:08
              I tried to say that you and the other by zoxer2006-11-05 07:24:50
                Nope Our grandfathers executed LOTS more people by joecrouse2006-11-05 07:42:07
                If you are going to play that card... by RetiQlum22006-11-05 07:57:07
                  No one backed me into a corner by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:04:49
          You dont pay the taxes here. by joecrouse2006-11-05 04:48:05
            Right. by krikkert2006-11-05 05:10:47
              People like that by Sjefen.no2006-11-05 05:15:52
                Two words. by krikkert2006-11-05 05:19:29
                  lol by Sjefen.no2006-11-05 05:25:06
                  Two more. by JPaganel2006-11-05 08:38:36
                    Two more. by Kickstart2006-11-05 13:34:15
                From the WIKI. Confirmed through Yahoo search. by joecrouse2006-11-19 12:55:59
                  Argumentum ad populam. (n/t) by krikkert2006-11-05 05:27:34
                  <Deleted><Deleted>2006-11-05 08:26:46
                    Sadly your incorect. I am from maryland by joecrouse2006-11-05 05:45:56
                    Fuffy pink bunni... no, forget that. MODS! by psychoi3oy2006-11-05 07:43:57
                      I was thinking of calling that myself. by RetiQlum22006-11-05 07:59:58
                      Screw that Let him call me what he wants by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:08:01
                    Just came online by hyzenthlay2006-11-05 08:10:33
                      Let him insult. I like fredom of speach in all by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:13:08
                        That's not your call. by hadji2006-11-05 10:43:53
                    hey. by zeitnot2006-11-05 08:12:41
                      I am not FROM TEXAS! (-= (n/t) by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:14:20
                        You could move? (n/t) by zeitnot2006-11-05 08:26:45
                          NO! Wife would kill me. by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:43:46
                    modded and disabled by Kickstart2006-11-05 08:27:27
                      Hey that wasnt fair. Let him back. by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:31:20
                        For those of us who hold similar views... by esbita2006-11-05 08:37:22
                          He is only insulting if I allow myself to be. by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:42:14
                            The rule about ad hominem attacks applies by Kickstart2006-11-05 08:50:13
                              I request that he be allowed back by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:54:18
                                Nope. by Kickstart2006-11-05 08:57:46
                                Save you all the trouble. by Illiad2006-11-05 10:05:28
                        The board rules are clear. by RetiQlum22006-11-05 08:46:28
                      If I may ask, who was disabled, and for by hadji2006-11-05 10:39:42
                        Sjefen.no, for repeated ad hominem attacks by Kickstart2006-11-05 13:03:43
              Sure I havent commited a single crime by joecrouse2006-11-05 05:18:35
                Hate crime. by krikkert2006-11-05 05:23:11
                  Yes I hate criminals I also hate the spinless. by joecrouse2006-11-05 05:36:25
                    So... by Sjefen.no2006-11-05 05:41:14
                      No not me. I think a seperate by joecrouse2006-11-05 06:13:12
                        Higher courts *can't* find people "not guilty". by Phoon2006-11-05 06:35:27
                          your right I was treating an overturned by joecrouse2006-11-05 06:45:00
                    Ah. by krikkert2006-11-05 05:53:13
                      Crime rate relates to differant law standards. by joecrouse2006-11-05 06:43:16
                  "Criminal" is now a social status? (n/t) by bwkaz2006-11-05 05:44:59
                    Yes. For lack of a better term. (n/t) by krikkert2006-11-05 05:54:03
        A society has the right to... by Ravenlock2006-11-19 12:55:59
          s/sources/sourced (n/t) by Ravenlock2006-11-05 04:42:40
          No we dont. 27 people wrongly convicted by joecrouse2006-11-05 04:55:59
            I wonder... by Sjefen.no2006-11-05 05:18:33
              Fortunately I like some of the Islamic Ideals by joecrouse2006-11-05 05:47:15
            I don't know where you got your numbers, by Ravenlock2006-11-19 12:55:59
              Slight revision: by Ravenlock2006-11-19 12:55:59
            See, that is what is wrong in the US today. by BorgKing2006-11-05 05:31:33
              Rehabilitation only works where by joecrouse2006-11-05 05:49:35
              There are some people that cannot be returned by JPaganel2006-11-05 08:36:43
            "You kill someone then you need to die" by Jeff_UK2006-11-05 07:54:25
              Kill as in murder (I aint getting into by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:10:09
                What about killing just because they're a murderer (n/t) by Jeff_UK2006-11-05 08:41:28
                  Dont see nothing wrong with it. by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:52:02
                    Thats called "mob rule" by ThunderKindeUK2006-11-05 10:31:51
                      another UK Biker? woo. by Jeff_UK2006-11-05 10:51:40
        in answer to the financial comments: by Jeff_UK2006-11-19 12:55:59
          False arguement. Government pays by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:01:29
            Pulling people of immediate cases is additional by gak2006-11-05 08:32:38
              The cases dont go away they go on back log by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:38:32
                And the backlog needs either more by gak2006-11-05 08:52:40
                  Its getting to that point now. (n/t) by joecrouse2006-11-05 09:11:12
    Tell that to the Turks by Control2006-11-05 04:04:47
      And the those socalled Civilized countries by joecrouse2006-11-05 04:15:36
        I doubt they pay much less by Control2006-11-05 04:25:24
          No they should have been rounded up and jailed by joecrouse2006-11-05 04:33:26
            Ok, I'm not going to respond anymore by Control2006-11-05 04:48:16
              Arguing with extremists by Sjefen.no2006-11-05 05:22:52
                Sadly, he's not much of a caricature. by Phoon2006-11-05 05:44:46
                  FPB? by Ravenlock2006-11-05 05:47:14
                you dont even live in a culture where crime is a by joecrouse2006-11-05 06:01:20
                  Perhaps then, you should try to change the culture by Kickstart2006-11-05 06:19:32
                    Assumptions, assumptions... by esbita2006-11-05 06:41:46
                      I didn't bring that into it on purpose, however... by Kickstart2006-11-05 06:46:35
                        That would be racist kickstart by joecrouse2006-11-05 06:52:28
                          There's lots of white trash too... by esbita2006-11-05 08:22:37
                        Welfare here is time-limited. by JPaganel2006-11-05 08:30:51
                          They are getting harder to come by by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:47:06
                            Hooray for the free market! by Kickstart2006-11-05 08:53:08
                              I just thought it was faitly ludicrous. (n/t) by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:56:39
                                fait/faintly (n/t) by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:57:01
                            So flip burgers then. by RetiQlum22006-11-05 09:11:58
                              Naw got the job with Qualixserve by joecrouse2006-11-05 09:29:34
                    Elimination is one way of improvement by joecrouse2006-11-05 06:50:35
        Well, actually... by fitzso2006-11-05 12:58:27
      Way to impose your standards and culture. by JPaganel2006-11-05 04:28:33
        I wasnt going to go there. by joecrouse2006-11-05 04:58:13
        Minor technicallity... by Sharku2006-11-05 12:50:05
    Joe: back away from this topic. by RetiQlum22006-11-05 06:08:34
      It aint about sadam anymore by joecrouse2006-11-05 06:20:28
        You gave anecdotes. by Ravenlock2006-11-05 06:23:27
          I was hopeing I didnt have to wade through by joecrouse2006-11-05 06:53:40
            You don't have to. by Ravenlock2006-11-05 07:03:13
              Since the thread is getting long, by Ravenlock2006-11-19 12:55:59
              And I give you a list of why by joecrouse2006-11-05 07:12:16
                I never said it wasn't necessary. by Ravenlock2006-11-05 08:14:30
                  s/lined/linked (n/t) by Ravenlock2006-11-05 08:14:44
                  That they were overturned is at the discretion by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:34:45
                    Judges don't overturn capital convictions. by Phoon2006-11-05 10:35:22
            Referances to what happens in real life by joecrouse2006-11-05 07:10:06
    My problem with it: a message via Moses. by etwas_egal2006-11-05 16:58:21
  Exile, eh? by binkley2006-11-05 04:58:14
    Wasnt Milosovec going to be Hanged as well. by joecrouse2006-11-05 05:00:47
      No, Milosevic wasn't going to be hanged. by BorgKing2006-11-05 05:20:37
        Where would you put some one by joecrouse2006-11-05 06:04:18
          He would have been imprisoned here, at UN costs. ( (n/t) by BorgKing2006-11-05 06:05:16
    Of course the majority got less. by krikkert2006-11-05 05:08:53
  Just the opposite. by RetiQlum22006-11-05 05:19:04
    And given that he was not by etwas_egal2006-11-05 18:05:01
  He's got a month to appeal by Kickstart2006-11-05 05:51:35
    Well obviously by TheGM2006-11-05 10:44:40
    s/a clu/a profitable clu/ by etwas_egal2006-11-05 18:08:52
  Good, let him swing. by DesertRat662006-11-05 06:27:06
    Agreed. (n/t) by RetiQlum22006-11-05 06:28:28
    You will, eh? by Kickstart2006-11-05 06:42:07
      I think it will decrease the violence. by RetiQlum22006-11-05 06:45:48
        I can't think of a historical example by Kickstart2006-11-05 06:49:11
          Cant think of one either unfortunately by joecrouse2006-11-05 06:57:41
          Bonnie Prince Charles. by RetiQlum22006-11-05 07:03:49
            Dude that reaching a bit dont you think by joecrouse2006-11-05 07:14:50
              18th century, almost 19th. by RetiQlum22006-11-05 07:19:27
                western though versus Eastern though by joecrouse2006-11-05 07:20:50
                  Which is why it is important that... by RetiQlum22006-11-05 07:22:57
                    ok fair enough. I can see that. (n/t) by joecrouse2006-11-05 07:28:33
      Like a baby by DesertRat662006-11-05 08:59:12
  Hey now by hyzenthlay2006-11-05 08:06:07
    OOOOO thats kind of low. (n/t) by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:10:42
      I admit I am sick of by hyzenthlay2006-11-05 08:16:28
        I never said the US was civilized either by joecrouse2006-11-05 08:27:41
          I don't disagree (n/t) by hyzenthlay2006-11-05 08:28:27
    Right, because they've never had it before. (n/t) by RetiQlum22006-11-05 08:15:14
      What like they didn't use the death penalty too? by hyzenthlay2006-11-05 08:17:34
        Sorry, I forgot my sarcasm tag. (n/t) by RetiQlum22006-11-05 08:24:42
          Oops, sorry! by hyzenthlay2006-11-05 08:25:46
  Good Bye Saddam by VivianC2006-11-05 09:01:42
    The civilised voice of the west. (n/t) by TheGM2006-11-05 10:47:47
    While that would have been expedient by DesertRat662006-11-05 10:55:58
      That's what I was saying. (n/t) by RetiQlum22006-11-05 11:10:07
      Excellently pragmatic, but utterly by etwas_egal2006-11-05 17:04:27
        The title/opener refers to the *action*, not a by etwas_egal2006-11-05 18:00:20

 

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