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Holy cow! 40,000 US deserters since 2000?! by Illiad2006-11-19 12:55:59
  Awol just means you went missing by joecrouse2006-09-08 09:32:45
    Sounds to me like they are counting by DesertRat662006-09-08 09:48:10
      Ok, so what would you do? by Control2006-09-08 11:27:57
        You suck it up and dont' re-enlist. (n/t) by subbywan2006-09-08 11:28:55
          Cowards solution by Control2006-09-08 11:31:57
            Cowards don't stick their bodies out in by subbywan2006-09-08 11:33:42
              That's BS and you know it by Control2006-09-08 11:39:37
                Um, no. That's not the most important thing by subbywan 2006-09-08 11:46:39
Following orders is the *enlisted* mans most important thing. If he gets into combat, it'll keep him alive more than thinking will.

If an enlisted man has a problem with an order he's given, there are procedures for him to register a complaint (as with the question about wiping out unarmed women and children elsewhere in this thread has shown).

He does NOT have a duty to refuse participation in activities he considers ethically wrong. He has a duty to refuse duties LEGALLY wrong as listed in the UCMJ (such as shooting unarmed civilians).

If he has ethical issues with what he's doing, he shouldn't have signed up. The oath clearly states that you will do what you are told by those who are above you, NOT that you'll only do what you feel is right.
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                  Then the oath is fundamentally wrong by Control2006-09-08 11:51:11
                    Says you. by subbywan2006-09-08 11:53:41
                    and how many enlisted men were ever tried as war by joecrouse2006-09-08 11:54:32
                      We hear about some ex-SS soldiers getting deported by nix2006-09-08 11:58:28
                        Um, not quite. by subbywan2006-09-08 12:01:33
                          My point is that in either case, Canada punished by nix2006-09-08 12:12:27
                            Did they though? by subbywan2006-09-08 12:15:09
                              Imagine 5 people, all born in 1925 in Germany by nix2006-09-08 12:38:14
                                those are not Punishments by joecrouse2006-09-08 12:41:50
                            deported versus Prison time by joecrouse2006-09-08 12:24:01
                              My point was they were never put on trial by joecrouse2006-09-08 12:24:48

 

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