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Holy cow! 40,000 US deserters since 2000?! | by Illiad | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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Just goes to show .. | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 09:19:54 |
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by esbita |
2006-09-08 09:43:02 |
"We’re blowing up museums, people’s homes, all the culture. I mean, I didn’t even realise Iraq was Mesopotamia, you know? There’s all this culture and everything in Iraq."
AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!! *bangs head against desk*
It's also in that section where the point is buried that Vietnam had a draft, Iraq did not. My dad was a CO. But he had NOT signed up for the armed forces, either. I think he worked in a hospital or something in lieu of service. Briefly considered running North, but decided, "This is my home. I will not run."
My parents were careful to impress on us that if you take the government's check, they OWN you. And described, or had us listen to, people who HAD gone to war. But if you sign on the dotted line, it's not your decision where you serve. Had I signed up for the military, I wouldn't have made to basic training. Mom would've killed me instead.
My mom was substitute teaching in the early 90's. Many farmers and farmer's WIVES were in the Reserve, for that extra monthly check. Sometimes BOTH parents got called up, and Grandma had to take care of the kids. "It's not fair! You can't do this to us!" They signed up, why did they think they'd never be asked to go? |
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Yup. Being a CO is fine if you're drafted | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 09:45:53 |
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If they sign up for something that was | by Peace_man | 2006-09-08 09:49:48 |
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You do not sign up for *a* particular war. | by esbita | 2006-09-08 10:03:54 |
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Under UCMJ you arnt just a tool | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:06:34 |
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Shaving someone's eyebrow off (just one :) | by airborneric | 2006-09-08 11:16:36 |
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I take that as a vote for 'legal obligation'. | by Peace_man | 2006-09-08 10:07:40 |
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You can't always see the "broad picture." | by esbita | 2006-09-08 10:30:14 |
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Um, it's the MILITARY | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 10:07:41 |
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??? | by Peace_man | 2006-09-08 10:14:02 |
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Um, no, it's not. | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 10:16:11 |
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I have been told that the oath soldiers give | by Peace_man | 2006-09-08 10:20:34 |
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Great. Show me where the constitution says | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 10:22:06 |
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International law should be followed. I don't | by Peace_man | 2006-09-08 10:25:52 |
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So, they're NOT actually bound to it then? | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 10:28:33 |
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The constitution Expressly forbids | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:38:32 |
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The specific oath states | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 10:29:53 |
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Dang it you beat me to it by seconds!!!! | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:39:34 |
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I don't | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 10:42:47 |
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I took it once and took it seriously | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:43:32 |
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Same here. (n/t) | by TheRantingGeek | 2006-09-08 11:17:11 |
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Formal oaths of allegence | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:36:14 |
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As you can see peace_man | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:37:46 |
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Hard to find?! | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 10:40:07 |
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Took me 5 mins. wasnt really sure where to look | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:42:49 |
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So Officers actually DON'T swear to obey | by Tomo | 2006-09-08 12:31:11 |
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I suppose technically | by MatthewDBA | 2006-09-08 12:35:04 |
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yup, but tis implicit, not explicit: | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 12:36:12 |
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Right Officers are paid to think about thier | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 12:43:49 |
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So if a platoon is told to blow up a village of | by talon0720 | 2006-09-08 10:33:25 |
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That is very different | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 10:38:17 |
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Nope. | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 10:38:46 |
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Very differant the Enlisted person | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:41:12 |
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In his(GWB) defence just for the sake of argument | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:18:02 |
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Got the mission wrong | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 10:23:55 |
