| Holy cow! 40,000 US deserters since 2000?! |
by Illiad |
2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
| So says the Pentagon...
I think that's something like half the number of the Regular Canadian forces! :-o |
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Just goes to show .. | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 09:19:54 |
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Here's the line that makes me groan... | by esbita | 2006-09-08 09:43:02 |
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Yup. Being a CO is fine if you're drafted | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 09:45:53 |
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If they sign up for something that was | by Peace_man | 2006-09-08 09:49:48 |
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You do not sign up for *a* particular war. | by esbita | 2006-09-08 10:03:54 |
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Under UCMJ you arnt just a tool | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:06:34 |
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Shaving someone's eyebrow off (just one :) | by airborneric | 2006-09-08 11:16:36 |
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I take that as a vote for 'legal obligation'. | by Peace_man | 2006-09-08 10:07:40 |
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You can't always see the "broad picture." | by esbita | 2006-09-08 10:30:14 |
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Um, it's the MILITARY | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 10:07:41 |
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??? | by Peace_man | 2006-09-08 10:14:02 |
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Um, no, it's not. | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 10:16:11 |
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I have been told that the oath soldiers give | by Peace_man | 2006-09-08 10:20:34 |
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Great. Show me where the constitution says | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 10:22:06 |
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International law should be followed. I don't | by Peace_man | 2006-09-08 10:25:52 |
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So, they're NOT actually bound to it then? | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 10:28:33 |
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The constitution Expressly forbids | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:38:32 |
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The specific oath states | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 10:29:53 |
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Dang it you beat me to it by seconds!!!! | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:39:34 |
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I don't | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 10:42:47 |
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I took it once and took it seriously | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:43:32 |
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Same here. (n/t) | by TheRantingGeek | 2006-09-08 11:17:11 |
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Formal oaths of allegence | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:36:14 |
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As you can see peace_man | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:37:46 |
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Hard to find?! | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 10:40:07 |
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Took me 5 mins. wasnt really sure where to look | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:42:49 |
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So Officers actually DON'T swear to obey | by Tomo | 2006-09-08 12:31:11 |
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I suppose technically | by MatthewDBA | 2006-09-08 12:35:04 |
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yup, but tis implicit, not explicit: | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 12:36:12 |
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Right Officers are paid to think about thier | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 12:43:49 |
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So if a platoon is told to blow up a village of | by talon0720 | 2006-09-08 10:33:25 |
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That is very different | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 10:38:17 |
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Nope. | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 10:38:46 |
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Very differant the Enlisted person | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:41:12 |
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In his(GWB) defence just for the sake of argument | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:18:02 |
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Got the mission wrong | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 10:23:55 |
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That number must be off. | by RetiQlum2 | 2006-09-08 09:27:25 |
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Awol just means you went missing | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 09:32:45 |
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Sounds to me like they are counting | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 09:48:10 |
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Nah. Let them be useful. | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 09:49:13 |
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One problem I have with that | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 09:50:15 |
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Yeah, but think about the folk who have | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 10:05:26 |
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Ok, so what would you do? | by Control | 2006-09-08 11:27:57 |
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You suck it up and dont' re-enlist. (n/t) | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 11:28:55 |
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Cowards solution | by Control | 2006-09-08 11:31:57 |
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Cowards don't stick their bodies out in | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 11:33:42 |
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That's BS and you know it | by Control | 2006-09-08 11:39:37 |
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Um, no. That's not the most important thing | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 11:46:39 |
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Then the oath is fundamentally wrong | by Control | 2006-09-08 11:51:11 |
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Says you. | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 11:53:41 |
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and how many enlisted men were ever tried as war | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 11:54:32 |
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We hear about some ex-SS soldiers getting deported | by nix | 2006-09-08 11:58:28 |
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Um, not quite. | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 12:01:33 |
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My point is that in either case, Canada punished | by nix | 2006-09-08 12:12:27 |
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Did they though? | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 12:15:09 |
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Imagine 5 people, all born in 1925 in Germany | by nix | 2006-09-08 12:38:14 |
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those are not Punishments | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 12:41:50 |
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deported versus Prison time | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 12:24:01 |
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My point was they were never put on trial | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 12:24:48 |
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Ethics got nothing to do with warfare | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 12:30:19 |
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"The best enemy to have ... | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 12:33:36 |
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This is exactly why | by MatthewDBA | 2006-09-08 12:34:15 |
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It's somewhat different if they're trying | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 12:37:40 |
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I don't know whether I would or not. | by MatthewDBA | 2006-09-08 12:42:35 |
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Nothing unethical about killing an enemy combatant | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 12:49:36 |
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In my mind | by MatthewDBA | 2006-09-08 13:08:45 |
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There is a level of greater good... | by jdelphiki | 2006-09-08 14:30:38 |
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There are still ways to protest | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 12:23:35 |
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You suck it up or you break your oath | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 11:35:48 |
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Wrong question | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 12:07:10 |
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Heh. | by TheRantingGeek | 2006-09-08 12:35:27 |
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Couldn't agree more | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 12:38:34 |
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Nope. But I was in commo as well. | by TheRantingGeek | 2006-09-08 12:42:58 |
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I was AF | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 14:12:46 |
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Army National Guard here. | by TheRantingGeek | 2006-09-08 14:23:25 |
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the reasoning of you two makes me sick | by lurker69 | 2006-09-08 13:56:45 |
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You got your "facts" way wrong | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 14:10:35 |
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I know! | by VivianC | 2006-09-08 14:15:54 |
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I think it was Carter. | by TheRantingGeek | 2006-09-08 14:25:10 |
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thank you for pecking on little details | by lurker69 | 2006-09-08 14:33:03 |
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That's democracy for you. | by TheRantingGeek | 2006-09-08 14:35:23 |
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Unless you're currently serving, or have served | by TheRantingGeek | 2006-09-08 10:16:41 |
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dude relax just a tad He was just pointing out | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:19:54 |
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No, this whole thread just strikes me as | by TheRantingGeek | 2006-09-08 10:48:42 |
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Half the people participating in the thread | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:50:55 |
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So why bash the military as a whole? (n/t) | by TheRantingGeek | 2006-09-08 10:58:53 |
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WHO is bashing the military as a whole? | by Kickstart | 2006-09-08 11:02:23 |
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Not one of us has. Mostly just | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 11:02:40 |
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I think you're not reading the thread or | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 11:03:24 |
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Ah. In that case... | by TheRantingGeek | 2006-09-08 11:15:10 |
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two seperate things there though. | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 11:18:35 |
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Protest the government, yes. | by TheRantingGeek | 2006-09-08 11:21:23 |
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Yes. | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 11:27:42 |
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There going on at my work too for the next week | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 11:23:58 |
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you should go | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 11:25:03 |
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Some how that would probably | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 11:27:24 |
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yeah, but he'd have FUN :D (n/t) | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 11:28:03 |
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and cost me my job | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 11:31:19 |
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How so?? | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 11:32:14 |
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Trust me | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 11:54:33 |
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"If you run, you'll just die tired" (n/t) | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 11:56:19 |
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More subtle | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 12:00:00 |
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Ahh ... electrified door handles, | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 12:03:02 |
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Naaah, hit the organization's web page. | by esbita | 2006-09-08 12:06:01 |
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A site only Stef would love. (n/t) | by TheRantingGeek | 2006-09-08 12:06:55 |
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butteredllamasgonewild.com? (n/t) | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 12:07:54 |
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real site.... "ilovebutter-dot-com" >;-> (n/t) | by classic_jon | 2006-09-08 12:09:30 |
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I'd send it | by DesertRat66 | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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A weee bit more obvious | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 12:17:56 |
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Completely block google. (n/t) | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 12:40:18 |
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And friends of people in the military. (n/t) | by hadji | 2006-09-08 13:25:04 |
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DR66 anti-military? That's insane. (n/t) | by RetiQlum2 | 2006-09-08 10:51:11 |
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Points to both my knees (which by the way | by joecrouse | 2006-09-08 10:52:09 |
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One point... | by Kickstart | 2006-09-08 10:57:41 |
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dude, illiad is probably as, if not more pro- | by subbywan | 2006-09-08 10:58:18 |
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wwhat exactly are you mad about? | by gibuu | 2006-09-08 10:32:34 |
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Huh? | by RetiQlum2 | 2006-09-08 10:37:34 |
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Further, there is a rule on this board | by Kickstart | 2006-09-08 10:47:24 |
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Hehe, I would think something was wrong if | by classic_jon | 2006-09-08 11:07:05 |
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Just remember... | by TheRantingGeek | 2006-09-08 10:50:43 |
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I do know that. | by RetiQlum2 | 2006-09-08 10:54:14 |
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We know that. | by nix | 2006-09-08 12:02:40 |
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Not really irrelevant. | by hadji | 2006-09-08 13:38:59 |
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Knee jerk much? (n/t) | by Illiad | 2006-09-08 12:25:39 |
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Only other number I could find... | by Ravenlock | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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Just FYI | by DesertRat66 | 2006-09-08 10:31:20 |
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Yes, but again, | by Ravenlock | 2006-09-08 10:41:14 |
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Show me the numbers | by VivianC | 2006-09-08 10:30:58 |
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agreed | by gibuu | 2006-09-08 10:35:00 |