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A simpler version of yesterday's "What's a bird?" by BaruMonkey2006-11-19 12:55:59
  ANYTHING by daemon_poet2006-07-26 07:49:45
    Is a stone a chair by MatthewDBA2006-07-26 07:50:39
      Is a chair a chair by bitflipper2006-07-26 07:52:15
        Yes. by MatthewDBA2006-07-26 07:54:12
          Perception is the key by bitflipper2006-07-26 07:56:32
            You can't say "how long is the chair a chair" by MatthewDBA2006-07-26 07:58:45
              Sure I can; who says I actually have to make sense by bitflipper2006-07-26 08:03:12
                Hmm, I think I see your point... by MatthewDBA2006-07-26 08:22:12
                  While you're chewing... by bitflipper2006-07-26 08:27:09
                    Hmm, not sure I agree by MatthewDBA2006-07-26 08:29:50
                      Where's the problem? by bitflipper2006-07-26 08:36:35
                        I still disagree by MatthewDBA2006-07-26 08:38:36
                          So there is an ideal chair? by bitflipper2006-07-26 08:41:09
                            There is an ideal chair. by MatthewDBA2006-07-26 08:42:42
                              Oh, how to attack that one? by bitflipper2006-07-26 08:51:53
                                Just because the mind of God by MatthewDBA2006-07-26 08:59:41
                                But if the ideal of a chair exists by bitflipper2006-07-26 09:08:36
                                I'm not clear here by MatthewDBA 2006-07-26 09:15:20
I'm not sure, specifically, what you mean by God's perception being "more concrete" than our own.

As you're interpreting the statement "I am that which is," you're coming up with a more pantheistic view. My interpretation is more along the lines of "I am that which *must be*". (Another way this has historically been said is that God's _essence_ is his _existence_.)

In this interpretation, God is part of, but not the sum and total of, reality. God can create (and does, by his perception) other real things which are not God, but are nonetheless real. Thus there is a chair; it is not God, but exists as (and because) he perceives it.
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                                It still all boils down to a chair only existing.. by bitflipper2006-07-26 09:49:05
                                re-phrase by bitflipper2006-07-26 10:02:06
                                Well, by MatthewDBA2006-07-26 10:03:40
                                Then what we are left with is... by bitflipper2006-07-26 10:45:22
                                If it is possible that you by MatthewDBA2006-07-26 11:04:08
                                O-kay, I understand "necessarily", in that context by bitflipper2006-07-26 11:52:26
                                Nice one by MatthewDBA2006-07-26 12:29:31
                                Trouble is.. by bitflipper2006-07-26 12:42:37

 

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