| U.S. Soldiers Tortured: Where Is the Outrage? |
by DesertRat66 |
2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
(story)
What these soldiers endured is beyond even the ID9K for posting, yet there appears to be no outrage among those who protest GITMO that these two young men were treated this way.
"By their fruits you shall know them" comes to mind. |
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It is horrible, yes. | by Control | 2006-06-21 10:08:17 |
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But... | by CynicalRyan | 2006-06-21 10:10:42 |
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It should but it's hard to be outraged | by AndyA | 2006-06-21 10:26:44 |
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and a bloody poor one! (n/t) | by fnord_hero | 2006-06-21 12:20:00 |
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While I agree in principle... | by jdelphiki | 2006-06-21 10:33:39 |
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Maybe what he is saying is, that | by Peace_man | 2006-06-21 10:41:42 |
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No, jdelphiki got it right | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 10:52:32 |
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I have to disagree | by ttlogic | 2006-06-21 10:59:09 |
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I can certainly take such people seriously | by MatthewDBA | 2006-06-21 11:08:00 |
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How easy is it for you to lie to him? | by Peace_man | 2006-06-21 11:14:10 |
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No | by MatthewDBA | 2006-06-21 11:18:41 |
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As a parent, it's my job... | by jdelphiki | 2006-06-21 11:53:19 |
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Compare and contrast: | by VivianC | 2006-06-21 12:13:00 |
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Blowed up or shot | by Feng_Li | 2006-06-21 12:23:48 |
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By their own people? | by VivianC | 2006-06-21 12:44:19 |
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Then we just disagree very much on that point. (n/ (n/t) | by ttlogic | 2006-06-21 11:14:33 |
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Living up to standards... | by jdelphiki | 2006-06-21 11:33:23 |
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I would take issue with a couple of your statement | by frizzgrig | 2006-06-21 10:57:17 |
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I'd argue about 2. | by Tomo | 2006-06-21 11:37:04 |
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Nobody is surprised when a mad dog bites. | by run.dll | 2006-06-21 10:12:11 |
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We must continue to uphold our own standards. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 10:15:12 |
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in -their- (mis)understandings of the koran | by unjust | 2006-06-21 10:41:46 |
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Good spin. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 10:51:26 |
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can you provide context for all of them? | by unjust | 2006-06-21 11:15:33 |
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Sure. Read the Q'uran. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 11:30:28 |
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can you please try to read AND comprehend? | by unjust | 2006-06-21 11:45:38 |
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context is everything | by pointlessshrew | 2006-06-21 15:45:09 |
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Exactly. | by kelli217 | 2006-06-21 10:52:03 |
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Seemed pretty unambiguous to me . . . | by mmell | 2006-06-21 11:01:21 |
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The Chrisitan Bible can be read the same way | by hyzenthlay | 2006-06-21 11:03:56 |
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Indeed. | by Pic | 2006-06-21 11:06:29 |
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<Deleted> | <Deleted> | 2006-06-21 12:04:02 |
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carp Mods i used a bad word.. | by gibuu | 2006-06-21 12:01:44 |
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Moderated for language (n/t) | by Nea | 2006-06-21 12:04:13 |
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Thankfully, I'm not Christian. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 11:08:48 |
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You should see some of Isaiah | by MatthewDBA | 2006-06-21 11:11:39 |
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go read the bible then. | by unjust | 2006-06-21 11:20:54 |
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I never said the Christian faith was superior. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 11:42:52 |
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superior no, you did however say... | by unjust | 2006-06-21 11:48:13 |
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Let us say rather... | by mmell | 2006-06-21 11:53:20 |
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i'm not seeing either. | by unjust | 2006-06-21 12:00:30 |
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I could cite a lot more . . . | by mmell | 2006-06-21 12:07:44 |
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fair enough | by unjust | 2006-06-21 12:12:13 |
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Many assumptions in there. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 12:19:04 |
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Stoning... | by pointlessshrew | 2006-06-21 15:36:52 |
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including being a Christian | by gibuu | 2006-06-21 16:20:05 |
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um, no, actually | by pointlessshrew | 2006-06-21 16:36:01 |
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Read before asserting? | by vetitice | 2006-06-21 16:38:21 |
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Glenn... | by pointlessshrew | 2006-06-21 16:40:53 |
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Glenn... | by pointlessshrew | 2006-06-21 16:41:26 |
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Only | by vetitice | 2006-06-21 16:42:06 |
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Glenn... | by pointlessshrew | 2006-06-21 16:41:43 |
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If I may | by stephystar | 2006-06-21 11:41:56 |
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It was still wrong, each time. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 11:45:00 |
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I didn't excuse them for what they did | by stephystar | 2006-06-21 11:47:17 |
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I agree. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 11:55:48 |
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That'll take a long time | by stephystar | 2006-06-21 12:03:27 |
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But the world is different. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 12:09:13 |
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<nitpick> | by esbita | 2006-06-21 13:20:09 |
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Dunno | by stephystar | 2006-06-21 13:46:40 |
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except that they (wrongly imho) think that theyr'e | by unjust | 2006-06-21 11:57:45 |
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YOU"VE GOT A REAL POINT THERE. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 12:03:56 |
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and that reason is? and is that monkier accurate? (n/t) | by unjust | 2006-06-21 12:13:04 |
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What's a monkier? | by mmell | 2006-06-21 12:14:01 |
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moniker. a nickname. (n/t) | by unjust | 2006-06-21 12:16:00 |
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Oh, you mean "Islam's bloody border"? | by mmell | 2006-06-21 12:17:56 |
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well... it seems to occur in a handful of places | by unjust | 2006-06-21 12:20:38 |
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My personal recollection of world events. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 12:24:13 |
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my typical sources are.... | by unjust | 2006-06-21 12:59:19 |
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Yeah, it helps to broaden one's knowledge base. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 14:54:51 |
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This is funny.... | by pointlessshrew | 2006-06-21 15:31:12 |
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most muslims throughtout the world are peaceful | by unjust | 2006-06-21 11:18:45 |
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It's only the muslims in "border" states... | by mmell | 2006-06-21 11:39:22 |
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From what others have said | by MatthewDBA | 2006-06-21 11:42:02 |
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A matter of interpretation, then. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 11:46:22 |
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Sure | by MatthewDBA | 2006-06-21 11:50:56 |
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I just wish we could find a way to fix this. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 12:00:07 |
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to be fair then you just said: | by unjust | 2006-06-21 12:03:05 |
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You said "is". | by mmell | 2006-06-21 12:13:15 |
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no we seem to disagree on what "context" | by unjust | 2006-06-21 12:18:32 |
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You said "is" again. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 12:20:22 |
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Translations differ; read these in context. | by kelli217 | 2006-06-21 11:21:41 |
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So the overriding theme is . . . | by mmell | 2006-06-21 11:35:13 |
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Seems more like | by MatthewDBA | 2006-06-21 11:40:07 |
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But I still gotta ask for mercy. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 12:16:21 |
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So what do you call what we are doing then? | by cognitivejuan | 2006-06-21 12:42:00 |
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We didn't do so because of a religious edict. | by mmell | 2006-06-21 14:50:43 |
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...I suppose. | by Ravenlock | 2006-06-21 10:15:50 |
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You missed a few details about Haditha | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 10:37:10 |
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Ah, fair enough. | by Ravenlock | 2006-06-21 10:54:33 |
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That's what I'm doing | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 11:12:04 |
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Oh and FYI... | by DesertRat66 | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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some holes in that story | by unjust | 2006-06-21 13:20:11 |
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None of which has been released (n/t) | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 13:25:26 |
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i believe it has | by unjust | 2006-06-21 14:15:09 |
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Brick wall meet head, head meet brick wall | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 14:24:09 |
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i'm pretty sure i've seen some | by unjust | 2006-06-21 14:50:33 |
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You seem to have access to more details | by Peace_man | 2006-06-21 10:22:51 |
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They are available for those who want to search | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 10:31:10 |
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Because poor behavior on their part does not excus | by talon0720 | 2006-06-21 10:32:23 |
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I believe you've got that last part flipped. | by Ravenlock | 2006-06-21 11:04:49 |
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^2nd and 3rd paras are replying to DR. (n/t) | by Ravenlock | 2006-06-21 11:05:31 |
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Take your second paragraph | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 11:22:26 |
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I think the outrage in the rest of the world is | by BorgKing | 2006-06-21 10:42:25 |
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If that were true | by hyzenthlay | 2006-06-21 10:53:07 |
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I see that only Fox gives any details, | by Peace_man | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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Got a follow up on that? | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 11:10:21 |
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You want a | by hadji | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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Those are just reprints... | by JaR | 2006-06-21 11:27:41 |
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Check the author's name: | by RetiQlum2 | 2006-06-21 11:27:49 |
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I'm at work. Didn't have time to check that deep, | by hadji | 2006-06-21 11:32:08 |
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How can you consider that followup? | by VivianC | 2006-06-21 11:31:50 |
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Prior Knowledge (n/t) | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 11:34:17 |
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Hadji, just give up, it isn't worth it. | by wwill | 2006-06-21 12:15:32 |
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ROFLMAO! | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 12:17:54 |
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You find | by hadji | 2006-06-21 12:25:09 |
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Sorry, that post got messed up, but | by hadji | 2006-06-21 12:25:37 |
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And so the flame war begins... | by AndyA | 2006-06-21 11:12:19 |
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Sounds like a good idea to me. (n/t) | by techi870 | 2006-06-21 11:15:01 |
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You're right - I will stay out of this thread from | by Peace_man | 2006-06-21 11:17:06 |
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I don't think that's what AndyA suggested. | by Illiad | 2006-06-21 11:22:08 |
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Not even anything that absolute. | by AndyA | 2006-06-21 11:42:53 |
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Torture is torture no matter who does it | by Classic_Jon | 2006-06-21 11:14:24 |
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Let's take some heads | by VivianC | 2006-06-21 11:42:33 |
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And there's the outrage! | by Didactylos | 2006-06-21 11:49:53 |
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We're just going to skip eye for an eye. | by Arivia | 2006-06-21 11:51:14 |
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Wrong approach | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 11:50:48 |
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So... | by Spiff | 2006-06-21 11:54:09 |
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Very good. (n/t) | by Arivia | 2006-06-21 11:55:59 |
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Why RPG the bank? | by VivianC | 2006-06-21 12:00:00 |
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Funny | by Spiff | 2006-06-21 12:19:48 |
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Why not? | by VivianC | 2006-06-21 12:42:51 |
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President Bush SHOULD condemn these actions, | by rorajoey | 2006-06-21 11:50:41 |
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You seem to lack much understanding of Israel. | by VivianC | 2006-06-21 12:07:58 |
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"condemning actions" is a platitude | by wwill | 2006-06-21 12:09:57 |
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Operative word: was | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 12:16:28 |
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You think he doesn't STILL profit from this? | by wwill | 2006-06-21 12:24:13 |
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What I think is not the issue | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 12:29:54 |
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DesertRat66, a linky for your attention | by ixeian | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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VERY good points there. | by wwill | 2006-06-21 13:35:47 |
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They are right about one thing | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 13:47:34 |
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..and this training goes on for how long? (n/t) | by OsteSpiser | 2006-06-21 14:00:16 |
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Relevance? (n/t) | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 14:06:21 |
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I am beyond p1ssed off that | by notdeadyet | 2006-06-21 13:58:12 |
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I like what I read on another forum about this | by DesertRat66 | 2006-06-21 14:02:13 |
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So he's fighting about 70% of his own country? | by vetitice | 2006-06-21 14:20:48 |
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You guys ask for it. | by Arivia | 2006-06-21 14:07:35 |
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Historically, we've been... | by jdelphiki | 2006-06-21 14:36:26 |
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Oh sure. | by Arivia | 2006-06-21 14:38:25 |
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Perhaps. | by jdelphiki | 2006-06-21 15:00:01 |
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In all seriousness If the U.N. would do what they | by Classic_Jon | 2006-06-21 15:24:23 |
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Yeah, but that would require the US | by Arivia | 2006-06-21 15:29:54 |
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To be fair... | by Illiad | 2006-06-21 15:31:22 |
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It's not the permanence. It's the veto. (n/t) | by kahuana | 2006-06-21 17:34:40 |
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Yar. | by Illiad | 2006-06-21 17:45:42 |
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Agreed. The UN is what it is... | by jdelphiki | 2006-06-21 19:58:32 |
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Oh I dunno. | by Illiad | 2006-06-21 15:26:49 |
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Sorry, dropped a word in the second sentence. | by Illiad | 2006-06-21 15:28:45 |
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But how do you separate... | by jdelphiki | 2006-06-21 16:43:20 |
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I don't think I'm advocating any sort... | by Illiad | 2006-06-21 17:15:08 |
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That was kinda my point... | by jdelphiki | 2006-06-21 18:29:22 |
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So we're arguing the same point. | by Illiad | 2006-06-21 18:48:20 |
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I get that a lot. | by jdelphiki | 2006-06-21 19:20:21 |
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More details in this story. | by rorajoey | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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These soldiers were probably carrying vital intel | by Sharku | 2006-06-21 16:13:33 |
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What kind of Outrage would you like to see? | by x0rganism | 2006-06-21 17:17:53 |
