| When might we see US leave Iraq? |
by Peace_man |
2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
Some cartoonists say 'when H4 freezes over'. Other people are more optimistic. Democrats in Congress are eager to hear the plan, but their Republican counterparts don't want to put that kind of pressure on the government.
I think the situation is very similar to England's presence in Northern Ireland - and we all know how long that situation took to get resolved. What? It's not resolved yet? I thought peace had broken out in Ireland? Oh well, I guess now we have a better idea how long the US will stay in Iraq:-(
In order for power to be handed over, a new made-in-Iraq government has to be installed, and enough police and military forces have to be trained and equipped to support it. Of course, in order for a US-made Iraqi government to be accepted, the entire process must be entirely fair and transparent. Otherwise we will just have a perpetual civil war in Iraq, with the US supporting one faction. Which of course is NOT desirable in the long run - a continued US military presence in the Middle East is a sure irritant to militant muslims and cannot produce peace for the US.
Possibly this is something that cannot have a good solution. And any Republican administration must by necessity support a continuation of the war in Iraq, or discredit itself by having to admit that the attack was a bad idea in the first place, because nothing good could possibly come from it. |
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Not before we're done invading Iran. (n/t) | by webishop | 2005-08-16 10:56:59 |
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Why not? | by DesertRat66 | 2005-08-16 11:07:23 |
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Don't laugh....that may yet happen. (n/t) | by webishop | 2005-08-16 11:24:03 |
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you'd have to be pretty ignorant | by ducimus | 2005-08-16 11:27:40 |
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And you'd have to be pretty ignorant about | by theanomaly | 2005-08-16 11:31:33 |
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Interesting little tidbit | by moongoddess | 2005-08-16 15:46:55 |
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Because they are expecting something around 9/11? (n/t) | by Martyny | 2005-08-16 16:09:46 |
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One big problem with your analogy. | by AndyA | 2005-08-16 11:04:28 |
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It has no vote in the US Congress, no. | by Peace_man | 2005-08-16 11:10:54 |
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It is not historically part of the USA | by AndyA | 2005-08-16 11:16:59 |
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Do you know where the people that voted | by Peace_man | 2005-08-16 11:19:03 |
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Land grab, yes... | by MatthewDBA | 2005-08-16 11:22:04 |
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Well in that case you need to start at home. | by AndyA | 2005-08-16 11:25:58 |
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You asked why I thought Northern Ireland | by Peace_man | 2005-08-16 11:33:59 |
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Starting next year | by DesertRat66 | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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Do you personally believe this will happen? | by Peace_man | 2005-08-16 11:12:20 |
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I think we'll start withdrawing | by DesertRat66 | 2005-08-16 11:16:51 |
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Hopefully not too soon. | by AndyA | 2005-08-16 11:22:44 |
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You are assuming that there is any way | by Peace_man | 2005-08-16 11:30:33 |
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Indeed, how many lives will be lost. | by AndyA | 2005-08-16 11:35:56 |
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What must it be like | by DesertRat66 | 2005-08-16 11:46:35 |
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Hang on there | by MatthewDBA | 2005-08-16 12:07:44 |
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Nice way to keep it professional, not personal | by cristobal | 2005-08-16 12:07:55 |
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Your assumptions here are revolting. | by Ravenlock | 2005-08-16 12:13:49 |
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sought out and made a deal with Osama? | by MikeCDN | 2005-08-16 12:33:48 |
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Excuse me? | by Peace_man | 2005-08-16 12:39:08 |
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Just one more thing. | by Peace_man | 2005-08-16 12:40:42 |
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Good form. | by Ravenlock | 2005-08-16 12:47:08 |
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Aye, Indeed... DR66 Managed to bring me to tears | by moongoddess | 2005-08-16 15:57:57 |
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An apology is due here. | by RigbyReardon | 2005-08-16 14:34:29 |
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User disabled for 24 hours. | by Nea | 2005-08-16 16:00:46 |
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And possibly for longer. (n/t) | by Illiad | 2005-08-16 16:08:09 |
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With the history of blood and warfare between Iraq | by classic_jon | 2005-08-16 12:12:33 |
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I suspect if anything it will be like Afghanistan | by DesertRat66 | 2005-08-16 11:30:33 |
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We will almost certainly do that. | by Ravenlock | 2005-08-16 11:30:04 |
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Even with a fair and transparent process... | by esbita | 2005-08-16 11:21:53 |
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Well yeah | by MikeCDN | 2005-08-16 11:23:47 |
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So....lesser evil is? | by esbita | 2005-08-16 12:10:45 |
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you can't leave a bloody dictator in power? | by MikeCDN | 2005-08-16 12:36:53 |
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I don't think we should have | by MatthewDBA | 2005-08-16 12:44:12 |
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I can see good arguments both ways. | by Peace_man | 2005-08-16 12:51:11 |
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As far as the first point | by MatthewDBA | 2005-08-16 12:56:32 |
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The US is currently spending more money | by Peace_man | 2005-08-16 13:06:47 |
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Reparations | by MatthewDBA | 2005-08-16 13:24:40 |
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I will agree with you on that MatthewDBA | by classic_jon | 2005-08-16 13:31:05 |
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Here I somewhat disagree. | by Ravenlock | 2005-08-16 12:57:27 |
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I don't see any way to know for sure. | by Peace_man | 2005-08-16 13:09:13 |
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I imagine so. | by Ravenlock | 2005-08-16 13:11:09 |
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Why isn't the UN? | by esbita | 2005-08-16 12:53:22 |
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WTF? Where does the UN come in? | by MikeCDN | 2005-08-16 12:57:30 |
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*I* said that I didn't want the US to babysit. | by esbita | 2005-08-16 13:31:55 |
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Do you really belive the rest of the world does | by MikeCDN | 2005-08-16 14:30:46 |
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The rest of the world DOES do something | by subbywan | 2005-08-16 16:35:00 |
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So then | by MikeCDN | 2005-08-16 17:07:18 |
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No, not really. | by subbywan | 2005-08-16 17:13:31 |
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The point being | by MikeCDN | 2005-08-16 17:18:02 |
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And the US has forces in many of those areas | by subbywan | 2005-08-16 17:27:55 |
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We can't be everywhere at once. | by esbita | 2005-08-16 17:33:18 |
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I suppose you could present | by MatthewDBA | 2005-08-16 12:59:21 |
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Ahem. Would that moral responsibility stretch | by Peace_man | 2005-08-16 13:03:22 |
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Yes, it does. (n/t) | by esbita | 2005-08-16 13:04:14 |
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Yes, but | by MatthewDBA | 2005-08-16 13:13:07 |
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Yes, we know that is what happened. | by Peace_man | 2005-08-16 13:15:29 |
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I'm probably just naive and optimistic | by MatthewDBA | 2005-08-16 13:39:14 |
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Actually there was a lot of | by ManiacJoe | 2005-08-16 15:51:17 |
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I don't believe so... see Hotel Rwanda (n/t) | by moongoddess | 2005-08-16 16:07:52 |
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Yes, but there is more to it than | by ManiacJoe | 2005-08-16 17:10:53 |
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When the oil well's dried up. (n/t) | by klaranth | 2005-08-16 11:40:18 |
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for all the good its doing for oil prices anyway ( (n/t) | by astro-g | 2005-08-16 22:52:38 |
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think who benefits most those high oil prices | by klaranth | 2005-08-16 23:03:03 |
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'When H4 freezes over' | by snake | 2005-08-16 12:02:36 |
