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alright, already by zeitnot2005-08-04 05:23:24
  morality has nothing to do with "Truth" by voxwoman2005-08-04 05:44:01
    the TRUTH! by zeitnot2005-08-04 06:00:32
      I think you've summed up what I was getting at by voxwoman 2005-08-04 06:22:15
but I don't see the relevance that truth, Truth or TRUTH has in this discussion at all. Morality, good, and evil are all concepts that are based on dualistic thinking (morality is in the list only to the degree that a person's moral code dictates where an action falls on the good-evil axis).

TRUTH is (supposedly) absolute (that's how you defined it, anyway, and I'll work with that. I don't necessarily agree with it, but that's only because I don't think we as humans are equipped to percieve TRUTH). TRUTH doesn't get involved with the duality of good/evil. It just is.

IMO, "morality" is the process by which a human decides upon "right action" for any given situation. Whether it conforms to the consensus of the rest of society is another matter. It is close to, but not the same as "ethics" (which in my personal lexicon is more of a set of rules rather than a process).

If there is an objective TRUTH to the universe, I doubt that it will have anything to do with good or evil, except to acknowledge that one can't exist without the other (as they are comparative concepts). I suspect it will be something very beautiful but also very stark, and not much concerned about the minutae of living beings on planet Earth.

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        well alright, but by zeitnot2005-08-04 07:20:00
          because good and evil are relative by voxwoman2005-08-04 08:03:01
            I'm not entirely sure I agree by MatthewDBA2005-08-04 08:48:01
              here's a context for you by voxwoman2005-08-04 09:21:46
                The action can be regarded as you say by MatthewDBA2005-08-04 09:33:46
              Good and evil by DevinUll2005-08-04 09:42:18
                As far as Quakers by MatthewDBA2005-08-04 10:04:36
                well, by zeitnot2005-08-04 10:24:51
                I think you meant Amish and not Quakers? (n/t) by voxwoman2005-08-04 10:27:02
                  Thanks Mixing up my religions. again (n/t) by DevinUll2005-08-04 13:48:04
            no! they're not! by zeitnot2005-08-04 09:16:28
              ???? by voxwoman2005-08-04 09:26:45
                *examines wheelbarrow* by MatthewDBA2005-08-04 09:35:20
                  Your pickup truck is evil (n/t) by voxwoman2005-08-04 09:37:17
                    you're just jealous of it :-P (n/t) by MatthewDBA2005-08-04 09:38:56
                Sorry. Got a bit carried away. by zeitnot2005-08-04 09:47:56
                  I won't invoke Godwin, even though I'm tempted by voxwoman2005-08-04 10:11:54
                    i had to look that up. by zeitnot2005-08-04 10:38:59
                      When you say that opinion is relative, and truth by Peace_man2005-08-04 10:46:43
                        yep. by zeitnot2005-08-04 11:28:54
                      fine. then let me redefine the parameters by voxwoman2005-08-04 10:59:44
                        augh! she redefined the parameters! by zeitnot2005-08-04 11:19:16
                          still not good enough. sorry. by voxwoman2005-08-04 12:41:55
                            I agree by MatthewDBA2005-08-04 13:25:17
                              I agree with most of what you said there by voxwoman2005-08-04 14:05:44
                                replying to myself to add by voxwoman2005-08-04 14:07:18
                                That I think I'd disagree with by MatthewDBA2005-08-04 17:05:32
                                whew. this thread has been active for by voxwoman2005-08-04 19:23:40
                            but wait! by zeitnot2005-08-04 15:51:33
                            and another thing! by zeitnot2005-08-04 16:11:05
                              heh. you like absolutes and I like infinities by voxwoman2005-08-04 17:10:45
          Only universal truths I know of by Pic2005-08-04 08:03:04
            That, in itself, is illuminating. by zeitnot2005-08-04 09:20:30

 

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