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by LSU_Frodin |
2005-06-17 01:19:21 |
| Hey guys, I need to invoke the debating faction of UF. I got into a debate with a friend over a certain piece of software (really an addon) being bloated and doing more than it should. He says that it doesn't harm anything in this new world of Gigs of Ram and Oodles of HD space, so why call it bloated, etc. The problem came when we got to the part about how something that harms is not good. But the question was really inverted, I proposed that something that doesn't harm doesn't mean it's good. Now I need an example, and I'm clueless. Any help please? Summary: I need a situation that doesn't cause harm, but is bad. OR A situation that causes harm, but is good. Thanks and I'm talking about reasonable situations. |
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Compare to excessive packaging | by OsteSpiser | 2005-06-17 01:31:48 |
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But there is a reason for that. | by Didactylos | 2005-06-17 01:45:27 |
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No problem with that, but did you look at the size | by ideur | 2005-06-17 02:43:47 |
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Best Buy packaging of SD Memory cards... | by Dshade | 2005-06-17 05:52:01 |
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actually no...it theft deterent. | by Chronos1 | 2005-06-17 06:56:55 |
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Situation that causes harm, but is good: | by Esteis | 2005-06-17 01:38:14 |
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Oh, and certain military interventions, if you | by Esteis | 2005-06-17 01:40:36 |
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But Bloatware does do harm | by hieraco | 2005-06-17 01:38:34 |
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Very nice, Thanks for the ideas (n/t) | by LSU_Frodin | 2005-06-17 03:17:33 |
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Re: Public Nudity | by ideur | 2005-06-17 04:00:41 |
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Found it | by ChuckAB | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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It's bad because it's bad. | by Didactylos | 2005-06-17 01:41:43 |
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Something that causes harm | by SciSSorS | 2005-06-17 01:51:41 |
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Late mail causes harm. | by Didactylos | 2005-06-17 01:59:43 |
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But personal mail — no harm if it's a day or two | by Esteis | 2005-06-17 02:03:10 |
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It depends. (n/t) | by Didactylos | 2005-06-17 02:12:20 |
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Guess so. (n/t) | by Esteis | 2005-06-17 02:18:33 |
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Zillions of features in MS Word, for instance | by A_flj_ | 2005-06-17 02:26:51 |
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I agree with parts of this | by MatthewDBA | 2005-06-17 03:49:19 |
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Bloatware IS bad: | by ideur | 2005-06-17 02:35:30 |
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The problem here though is.. | by LSU_Frodin | 2005-06-17 03:24:08 |
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So he's ignoring the fact that bloatware | by Esteis | 2005-06-17 03:37:29 |
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I haven't seen the excess | by MatthewDBA | 2005-06-17 04:09:10 |
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I have to hunt for lots ot things. | by joecrouse | 2005-06-17 09:45:01 |
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The world of today is full of computers | by BloodyViking | 2005-06-17 06:54:26 |
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My computer is about 6 or 7 years old | by MatthewDBA | 2005-06-17 07:54:55 |
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It depends on what it has in it. | by BloodyViking | 2005-06-17 10:07:37 |
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A principle of software engineering | by wheresthefish | 2005-06-17 02:51:11 |
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I agree, but... | by LSU_Frodin | 2005-06-17 03:25:10 |
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a stick has one part. use it on him. | by unjust | 2005-06-17 08:14:18 |
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"Explain why bloat is bad without mentioning... | by mcnutcase | 2005-06-17 04:05:38 |
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I still don't see a large number of | by MatthewDBA | 2005-06-17 04:15:11 |
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I'd be WAY more likely to than him (n/t) | by LSU_Frodin | 2005-06-17 04:27:30 |
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A little more on the subject | by LSU_Frodin | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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Yes (n/t) | by MatthewDBA | 2005-06-17 04:30:20 |
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Aside from the intrinsic bloatedness of OO, | by BloodyViking | 2005-06-17 07:04:35 |
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Only if the user sees it | by MatthewDBA | 2005-06-17 07:51:28 |
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But is it a valid assumption | by BloodyViking | 2005-06-17 10:00:58 |
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examples, you're right, your friend is dumb. | by unjust | 2005-06-17 07:52:23 |
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Every action has consequences | by MatthewDBA | 2005-06-17 08:23:09 |
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you may not notice them... | by unjust | 2005-06-17 08:46:19 |
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In other words, | by MatthewDBA | 2005-06-17 08:55:52 |
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but if i can't run software the will increase my | by unjust | 2005-06-17 10:03:41 |
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Hmmm..ok try this explanation.. | by classic_jon | 2005-06-17 09:46:37 |
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Bloatware is WHY there's so much ram and HD space. | by mortaine | 2005-06-17 13:04:21 |
