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US Federal ID card bill passed. by wheresthefish2006-11-19 12:55:59
  good this is one thing i support. by joecrouse2005-05-11 05:21:05
    I don't think it's nearly that simple. by Ravenlock 2005-05-11 06:03:31
As others have mentioned, if it can be made, it can be faked, and will be. Less people will be able to afford the fakes, most likely, but those people will be all the more dangerous.

Is it worth the potential increase in job security to accept a probable massive loss in privacy and individual/states rights?
[ Reply ]
      Wait a second by frizzgrig2005-05-11 07:08:26
        National standards, OK. by Esteis2005-05-11 07:13:51
          I don't agree with compulsory carring, but by frizzgrig2005-05-11 07:26:35
        Privacy from government and privacy from industry by Ravenlock2005-05-11 07:16:02
          We have children who hack into the by frizzgrig2005-05-11 07:22:26
            I can't necessarily say that isn't true. by Ravenlock2005-05-11 07:29:24
            Children who hack into the system do by voxwoman2005-05-11 08:09:08
              You kind of missed my point, or ignored it by frizzgrig2005-05-11 10:59:14
          They already have access to that information via by DesertRat662005-05-11 07:46:40
            Doesn't mean you should just roll over. by McNutcase2005-05-11 07:55:40
              Exactly. If it's just an SQL-statement away by Tomo2005-05-11 07:59:12
                Wait a minute by DesertRat662005-05-11 08:07:25
                  I think I'm going to apply for a governmental by voxwoman2005-05-11 08:10:46
                    It gets old. by esbita2005-05-11 09:31:34
                      I've always found it just to be blah (n/t) by frizzgrig2005-05-11 10:51:53
                  "Hey, this name popped up" - style queries. by Tomo2005-05-11 08:11:34
                    do I need to post that ACLU video link? by voxwoman2005-05-11 08:14:46
                      Please do - not seen that one! (n/t) by Tomo2005-05-11 08:16:43
                        sheesh by voxwoman2006-11-19 12:55:59
                          I'm sorry, my Google-fu is weak today. (n/t) by Tomo2005-05-11 08:42:59
                            mine wasn't much better - by voxwoman2005-05-11 08:49:52
              Didn't say you should by DesertRat662005-05-11 08:00:25
                I agree with both of you. by Ravenlock2005-05-11 08:07:26
                  Oh, I emailed you, too, btw. by Ravenlock2005-05-11 08:08:24
                    Nothing showed up (n/t) by DesertRat662005-05-11 09:11:02
                      Hrm. At the GMail one? by Ravenlock2005-05-11 10:30:54
                        Re-sent. (n/t) by Ravenlock2005-05-11 10:37:49
                          Still nada by DesertRat662005-05-11 11:54:17
                            Nope. by Ravenlock2005-05-11 13:11:45
                              Okay, tried again. :) (n/t) by Ravenlock2005-05-11 13:14:08
        "Criminals" like my husband who missed 2 weeks by voxwoman2005-05-11 08:04:12
          Well considering the new bankruptcy laws by MatthewDBA2005-05-11 08:06:57
          Missing two weeks of child support paymentq by joecrouse2005-05-11 10:24:52
          A warrant is a warrant by frizzgrig2005-05-11 10:42:08
        You have some factual errors. by AndyA2005-05-11 09:22:55
          You have a choice by frizzgrig2005-05-11 10:05:12
            You can get utilities without an SSN. by AndyA2005-05-11 10:24:57
              no it aint. by joecrouse2005-05-11 10:40:27
              They may not require it by frizzgrig2005-05-11 10:53:53
                Odd. Was never a problem for me. by AndyA2005-05-11 15:42:42
          Didnt Ludwig Myer say that the more by joecrouse2005-05-11 10:26:44

 

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