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People missed something about yesterdays school... | by DesertRat66 | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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He used the gun of his grandfather... | by sauerlandcowboy | 2005-03-22 07:10:25 |
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Several reasons | by DesertRat66 | 2005-03-22 07:18:45 |
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What did the Isrealis do? (n/t) | by voxwoman | 2005-03-22 07:36:54 |
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The exact opposite of what everyone in the U.S. | by DesertRat66 | 2005-03-22 07:59:52 |
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Oh yeah, even more guns | by vectorz | 2005-03-22 08:54:57 |
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Flawed reasoning | by DesertRat66 | 2005-03-22 09:09:30 |
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My fault | by vectorz | 2005-03-22 09:34:30 |
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Sorry got sidetracked | by DesertRat66 | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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by sewerrat |
2005-03-22 23:29:13 |
...and I don't have a link...
...wasn't there a study (I think I read about it in a science magazine.. New Scientist?) that found that while there is evidence to say that more guns = less crime, we're not looking closely enough at the age demographics carrying the guns, and at the drug influence.
It talked quite a lot about crack cocaine in new york leading to an increase in gun ownership + shootings amount select demographics. The basic theory is that in that case dealers started using young males to courier the cocaine. They armed them so the cocaine was protected, which meant other young males had to arm themselves to feel safe in this new situation where dealers were all armed. This just escalated itself. I'm more inclined to believe this article because it didn't say "guns are bad" or "guns reduce crime" but said "hey, maybe we're looking at the wrong thing, what causes increases in gun usage". I know I'm in a country where people do not carry guns, and we don't have a crime problem. I know some of the safest states have high percentages of people carrying guns. It seems logical to me that the link isn't just "how many people carry guns" but why they carry the guns.
No problem with the principle in your linked article having a gun, he saved lives. But a principle will have a gun at the school for a very different reason to a "young punk". "Safe" gun societies probably have a high percentage of farmers, and other gun-carrying individuals that have good, legitimate non-self-defence reasons for carrying the guns. That doesn't mean that arming everyone in the cities will cause the same benefit.
Not ranting against your points desertrat, just providing (potentially) more information
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