| This gun fetishism annoys me. (rant inside) |
by chrisP |
2005-03-22 11:18:07 |
Ok there have been a couple of gun related threads today (no big news that, btw.) so I put this in a TLP cause I couldn't decide where to post elsewhere.
I feel it's time to state my distaste for the manner in which gun-posession, gun-use, gun-modification, gun-decoration and fiddling with guns in general is advocated by some of us here.
I have, at first, to thank toxin for bringing up that point clearly in some of his posts today.
My points, as short as possible.
I see the need of using armed violence in certain situations. The world is far from being a safe place and for certain people in certain situations, there may be the need to carry weapons.
This is, however, nothing that should be deemed normal or even good. I have no objection to discuss the whens and wheres of abovementioned need, but the obvious combination of advocating guns as a measure of self defence and fiddling with guns as a hobby seems fishy to me and at times distasteful.
Only as an example, photos of guns and meals may be fun once in a while, but posting those on a day like this (and I mean a UF-board-day with the discussions that are going on) seems misplaced to me.
On a side note (I can't help myself here), the particular order of those photos on todays board seems to indicate that size does indeed matter.
A summary of todays posts indicates that a part of the UF community seems to envision education mainly as:
- compulsory military service (good for discipline and respect)
- corporal punishment in schools
- armed teachers (if the above fails?)
Whoa, welcome to the dark ages. If you are inclined to use measures that may be appropriate in a civil war situation, you should not be surprised to get something like a civil war. But well, judging from the breakfast habits, some are well prepared for that.
In summary, I'd really appreciate if guns would be treated as deadly weapons on this forum rather than as toys. That, or refrain from commenting on incidents where they were used to kill people.
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Fully agreed. (n/t) | by Winsmith | 2005-03-22 11:19:55 |
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I was about to post something similar, but then I | by ErniePi | 2005-03-22 11:22:38 |
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Same here. | by Tars_Tarkas | 2005-03-22 11:22:42 |
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I guess they must not have seen any of the | by voxwoman | 2005-03-22 11:41:03 |
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I've seen it. | by wtfunkymonkey | 2005-03-22 11:45:03 |
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heh. Then, because it's not friday yet | by voxwoman | 2005-03-22 11:46:25 |
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I'm sure the mental picutres in my head | by wtfunkymonkey | 2005-03-22 11:48:48 |
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Hehe.. reminds me of | by corvus_one | 2005-03-22 11:43:58 |
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thought it was "Tea and Cacke or Death"? (n/t) | by Freakazoid | 2005-03-22 12:04:16 |
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Nope, just cake or death. (n/t) | by maceogan | 2005-03-22 12:09:03 |
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i've seen the video | by Freakazoid | 2005-03-22 12:11:32 |
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Well in my case it was for the birthday | by Tars_Tarkas | 2005-03-22 12:14:48 |
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Weird, i will have to go listen to | by maceogan | 2005-03-22 12:30:48 |
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unless we watchched/listened to different versions | by Freakazoid | 2005-03-22 12:35:09 |
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Bother.. i'm doing it again | by Freakazoid | 2005-03-22 12:36:33 |
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he says it both ways | by nebuchanezzar | 2005-03-22 12:49:46 |
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Statistically, you are more likely to be killed by | by kahuana | 2005-03-22 11:21:25 |
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Nice point. | by saminz | 2005-03-22 11:27:22 |
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Your point? | by BeanBandit | 2005-03-22 15:24:51 |
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Thought this was Geeks, not Guns | by penguintrip | 2005-03-22 11:26:21 |
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I AGREE!!! | by mortaine | 2005-03-22 11:39:38 |
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YEA! GO AWAY! WE DONT WANT YOU! | by wtfunkymonkey | 2005-03-22 11:43:06 |
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This is I guess like the distro-wars. | by toxin | 2005-03-22 11:46:49 |
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Yes, I agree! | by wtfunkymonkey | 2005-03-22 11:49:59 |
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Who says they don't mix? | by DesertRat66 | 2005-03-22 11:46:27 |
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Ah, ESR's site. Also keeper of the Jargon File. (n/t) | by RetiQlum2 | 2005-03-22 12:10:35 |
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They're just GunGeeks (n/t) | by tallastro | 2005-03-22 12:58:50 |
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Hmm I recall the last time I treated a firearm as | by techi870 | 2005-03-22 11:28:36 |
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Ok. Can you reconcile something for me, then? | by JPaganel | 2005-03-22 11:31:15 |
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That would be because | by wheresthefish | 2005-03-22 11:33:05 |
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As opposed to who? (n/t) | by JPaganel | 2005-03-22 11:37:29 |
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well, then sweet's post abotu teh paranoid lady | by unjust | 2005-03-22 11:38:58 |
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That wasmeant as an inclusive "we", not exclusive. | by wheresthefish | 2005-03-22 11:48:11 |
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depends on the day and what medications | by joecrouse | 2005-03-22 12:02:11 |
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*KSCHT* Agent Phi, Agent Phi. | by LionsPhil | 2005-03-22 13:06:56 |
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Safe gun ya-yas | by Yohimbe | 2005-03-22 11:36:28 |
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Dangerous to whom? Criminals? | by BeanBandit | 2005-03-22 15:31:51 |
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Seems to me there's distinctions: FPS isn't real.. | by williamashbless | 2005-03-22 11:39:59 |
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There is no comparison. | by mortaine | 2005-03-22 11:40:54 |
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As far as i know, | by chrisP | 2005-03-22 11:44:23 |
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Well, that depends on who you ask. | by JPaganel | 2005-03-22 12:08:07 |
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I'll try. | by chrisP | 2005-03-22 12:22:47 |
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Have you considered that | by JPaganel | 2005-03-22 12:28:31 |
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I have. | by chrisP | 2005-03-22 12:40:16 |
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I personally detest guns | by Yohimbe | 2005-03-22 11:35:09 |
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I agree, too many gun threads around | by Freakazoid | 2005-03-22 11:46:22 |
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Would you mind to tell me | by chrisP | 2005-03-22 11:48:37 |
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That pretty much sums up my opinion. (n/t) | by wheresthefish | 2005-03-22 11:35:20 |
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Sort of agree | by Hellahulla | 2005-03-22 11:36:30 |
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No call to remove anyone. | by chrisP | 2005-03-22 11:57:02 |
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IF no one brings up guns then no one talks | by joecrouse | 2005-03-22 12:05:52 |
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Well, when legal issues are discussed | by Feng_Li | 2005-03-22 12:08:14 |
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my view on this | by unjust | 2005-03-22 11:37:38 |
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In defense of the gun enthusiasts, I must say | by Peace_man | 2005-03-22 11:42:03 |
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Thanks. (n/t) | by techi870 | 2005-03-22 11:46:29 |
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Nah | by hyzenthlay | 2005-03-22 11:48:29 |
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I tip my hat to you sir. (n/t) | by wtfunkymonkey | 2005-03-22 11:51:26 |
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How come I agree with nearly every post you make? | by Havoc | 2005-03-22 12:03:14 |
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On a more related note... | by JPaganel | 2005-03-22 11:47:04 |
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I feel bad now. | by wtfunkymonkey | 2005-03-22 11:47:59 |
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Sarcasm? | by Didactylos | 2005-03-22 11:52:29 |
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Sorry, but | by chrisP | 2005-03-22 12:03:00 |
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What exactly is the point you're trying to make? | by wtfunkymonkey | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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You're obviously reading things into | by chrisP | 2005-03-22 12:32:45 |
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So we can assume that you are a far-left liberal? | by Havoc | 2005-03-22 11:50:32 |
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Well then | by chrisP | 2005-03-22 13:00:31 |
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Yah yah - I wish we had the 'right' to delete | by Havoc | 2005-03-22 13:23:38 |
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Ah well, | by chrisP | 2005-03-22 13:31:18 |
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<zinger>So a TLP on guns is your answer? | by toxin | 2005-03-22 11:52:00 |
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Oh the irony. | by chrisP | 2005-03-22 12:04:34 |
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Yes, the ostrich is always effective | by SnArL | 2005-03-22 11:53:08 |
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No offence meant | by LeoHyuuga | 2005-03-22 11:53:19 |
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But that would require tolerance, something | by Havoc | 2005-03-22 11:57:45 |
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The odd thing is that in my country | by LeoHyuuga | 2005-03-22 12:03:11 |
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OOOO! At the risk of being labeled a psycho | by Havoc | 2005-03-22 12:15:19 |
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I'll take that job | by SnArL | 2005-03-22 12:23:06 |
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Actually, I think I should have Peace_Man as 2nd | by Havoc | 2005-03-22 12:27:40 |
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See, numbers CAN be manipulated! :) (n/t) | by SnArL | 2005-03-22 12:29:11 |
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The only reason why that is such a good idea is, | by Peace_man | 2005-03-22 12:32:46 |
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My luck, you would betray your ideals for | by Havoc | 2005-03-22 12:35:23 |
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Ooooooh - you tempt me. Good argument. (n/t) | by Peace_man | 2005-03-22 12:37:51 |
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And yet, according to some American newspapers, | by LeoHyuuga | 2005-03-22 12:28:31 |
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I just don't think that 'dictatorship' = 'Bad' | by Havoc | 2005-03-22 12:32:41 |
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Pron's illegal here. | by LeoHyuuga | 2005-03-22 12:37:59 |
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A democratic voting process | by Havoc | 2005-03-22 12:50:52 |
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I think I understand. | by LeoHyuuga | 2005-03-22 12:58:29 |
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You know whats funny | by MikeCDN | 2005-03-22 14:28:20 |
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You obviously didn't read what I wrote. | by chrisP | 2005-03-22 12:10:13 |
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Humanity itself can hardly be called "good" | by SnArL | 2005-03-22 12:24:13 |
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Yup. | by chrisP | 2005-03-22 12:41:59 |
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kinda hard not to read them when there's so many | by Freakazoid | 2005-03-22 11:58:55 |
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Yes, I noticed. | by LeoHyuuga | 2005-03-22 12:06:12 |
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Feel free to be annoyed, but | by run.dll | 2005-03-22 11:58:56 |
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Contentious issues | by Didactylos | 2005-03-22 12:10:58 |
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As I said, | by run.dll | 2005-03-22 12:22:45 |
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The price of freedom | by Didactylos | 2005-03-22 12:28:09 |
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Making the board a worse place | by Didactylos | 2005-03-22 12:03:14 |
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Why is it a worse place without extremists? | by Havoc | 2005-03-22 12:09:30 |
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This is a Cartoonocracy. | by Didactylos | 2005-03-22 12:13:56 |
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I actually LIKE that concept. :) (n/t) | by Havoc | 2005-03-22 12:16:52 |
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And what of when all of the Bush bashing chased | by SnArL | 2005-03-22 12:10:05 |
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The presidential mess | by Didactylos | 2005-03-22 12:17:15 |
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Personally, | by Nea | 2005-03-22 12:17:25 |
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I'm an idiot. What's 'Ringing'? (n/t) | by Havoc | 2005-03-22 12:21:03 |
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Moronic. | by wheresthefish | 2005-03-22 12:23:53 |
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Someone 'splain please? | by Havoc | 2005-03-22 12:25:50 |
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If my memory serves correctly | by Freakazoid | 2005-03-22 12:30:56 |
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Happened about the same time | by hyzenthlay | 2005-03-22 12:59:46 |
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Close. | by thewrongcrowd | 2005-03-22 13:47:07 |
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It still makes no sense. | by JPaganel | 2005-03-22 13:55:16 |
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Don't ask. | by JPaganel | 2005-03-22 12:30:57 |
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In mechanical and electrical engineering, | by run.dll | 2005-03-22 12:32:22 |
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an explanation | by gibuu | 2005-03-22 15:07:10 |
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Devil's advocate? | by Didactylos | 2005-03-22 12:21:35 |
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Well put. | by RetiQlum2 | 2005-03-22 12:21:49 |
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I don't *have* to. | by Nea | 2005-03-22 12:31:50 |
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We really do appreciate the job you (and the | by Peace_man | 2005-03-22 12:40:43 |
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It's not a matter of distastful, | by Nea | 2005-03-22 12:45:00 |
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Ringing | by wtfunkymonkey | 2005-03-22 12:21:57 |
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It's more than that. | by Didactylos | 2005-03-22 12:32:22 |
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As I stated elsewhere, I don't call for banning | by chrisP | 2005-03-22 12:54:18 |
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Hmmm brief scan of an all gun message board... | by DesertRat66 | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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May I kindly refer you | by chrisP | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
