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By Loki that was cathartic by Illiad2005-02-28 16:06:45
  How do you feel about cyclists, in that respect? by Esteis2005-02-28 16:30:17
    My philosophy when I'm cycling: by jiteo2005-02-28 16:32:08
      Common sense like, say, stopping at lights? by LionsPhil2005-02-28 16:34:38
        Common sense like, say, stopping for vehicles. by Esteis2005-02-28 16:37:14
          Don't tell me we're into the fallacies already. (n/t) by LionsPhil2005-02-28 16:38:19
            I know about fallacies. by Esteis2005-02-28 16:42:53
              s/side/snide/? by LionsPhil2005-02-28 17:00:21
                No, s/side/side [sic]/. by Esteis 2006-11-19 12:55:59
An aside comment. Or were you joking -- I can't tell. Never can, with you.

I was not making moving off from standstill out to be an ordeal; I was saying I would avoid it if possible. I state my position a bit more clearly here.
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