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I've seen quite a regular bit of by hadji 2005-01-16 20:15:27
negativity here lately toward religion in general and Christianity specifically. Hate, ridicule, contempt and others. Why? If you are angry at people who have committed atrocities in the name of religion, why are your feelings directed at the religion as a whole instead of those people who committed the atrocities?

There are Canadians who have committed crimes. Does it follow that Canada, as a country, deserves to be ridiculed and hated? There are Americans who have committed crimes. Was Bin Laden right that his attack was justified and that America, as a country, should be ridiculed and hated?

I thought the general attitude here was supposed to be tolerance, understanding, and rational thought. If a given religion's second most important commandment is to love one's neighbor as one loves onself, would it not rationally follow that those who act otherwise are not adhereing to the faith they claim to follow? And therefore, the fault is their own and not the religion's?
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  I think it's the Conversion Thing by Dazed2005-01-16 20:24:13
    Christ Himself said that... by sstacks2005-01-16 20:26:47
      I must differ... by LthrOttr2005-01-16 20:29:31
      try this test by dennismv2005-01-16 21:09:45
        can't take the Book literally, whatever by shminux2005-01-16 21:21:56
          Not true. See my other reply. by hadji2005-01-16 21:25:08
        I'm not talking about belief. by hadji2005-01-16 21:24:07
          why do you think you have received and by shminux2005-01-16 21:30:51
            Again, my point here is not whether people by hadji2005-01-16 21:41:25
        I'm a bit foggy as to where it is by Spudd862005-01-16 22:17:29
          I know there was a story of when by hadji2005-01-16 22:24:41
            I guess by dennismv2005-01-17 16:26:03
    But there again, the doctrine of conversion by hadji2005-01-16 20:30:18
      "should be" "supposed to be" - these are goals by Dazed2005-01-16 21:09:06
        I understood it. And I concede the reality by hadji2005-01-16 21:19:32
          Because people don't know the teachings, by AndyA2005-01-16 21:51:51
            That's probably a good point, but then my question by hadji2005-01-16 22:03:48
              Is that then called meta-dogma? by Tars_Tarkas2005-01-16 22:06:22
              errr, forgot to specifiy the question. by hadji2005-01-16 22:06:48
                It suits their agenda? by Illiad2005-01-16 22:24:03
                  It's also easier to stay with your original belief by Dazed2005-01-16 22:28:26
                Birds of a feather flock together... by Tars_Tarkas2005-01-16 22:24:31
                  Oh and another reason... by Tars_Tarkas2005-01-16 22:39:27
                Because they are expecting more of the same? by AndyA2005-01-16 22:44:03
  A guess... by LthrOttr2005-01-16 20:26:27
  thoughts by dennismv2005-01-16 20:45:26
    Read my post again. by hadji2005-01-16 20:55:45
      The same people... by Illiad2005-01-16 20:58:38
        Right. But, my point is that - and this isn't by hadji2005-01-16 21:13:34
          I agree with you... by LthrOttr2005-01-16 21:19:34
          Ah, now we're at the crux of it. by Illiad2005-01-16 21:44:37
            I believe by WakkoWarner2005-01-16 23:18:29
          a different spin by dennismv2005-01-16 22:04:32
            That's basically it, except that by hadji2005-01-16 22:15:28
      alright by dennismv2005-01-16 21:32:31
        A hammer is a tool that can by hadji2005-01-16 21:53:34
          hehe, guns don't kill people by dennismv2005-01-16 22:07:45
            It is a philosophy that cannot, in any true sense, by hadji2005-01-16 22:18:06
  I don't think that it's... by Illiad2005-01-16 20:46:49
    I understand that philosophy. by hadji2005-01-16 20:49:48
      Knee-jerkism probably. by Illiad2005-01-16 20:55:37
        I'm not sure, there... by LthrOttr2005-01-16 21:04:11
          No disagreement. by Illiad2005-01-16 21:07:40
            I will concded... by LthrOttr2005-01-16 21:15:30
              Oh, probably. by Illiad2005-01-16 21:49:10
                Paint us a picture then, that seems to work :) (n/ (n/t) by Tars_Tarkas2005-01-16 21:50:44
      Chill, dude. The Big Guy can handle it. by jedidiahstott2005-01-16 20:59:16
        :-) (n/t) by hadji2005-01-16 21:29:54
    Ooh, big words. :D (n/t) by Llyr2005-01-16 20:58:30
  Relevant to this thread by run.dll2006-11-19 12:55:59
  Nothing wrong with (almost) any religion by shminux2005-01-16 21:10:47
    See, this is exactly the problem. by Llyr2005-01-16 21:33:09
      true, although "gott mit uns" was a justification by shminux2005-01-16 21:37:05
        not that other religions are any different by shminux2005-01-16 21:39:59
          Again, don't make the grevious mistake by Llyr2005-01-16 22:09:45
            absolutely. I agree. Unfortunately, the by shminux2005-01-16 22:13:07
              Concur. However, it is well worth the effort. (n/t by Llyr2005-01-16 22:16:49
  You think YOU'VE got it bad? by Jeff_UK2005-01-16 21:37:32
    What's wrong with Royal mail? by shminux2005-01-16 21:41:24
      The press does not like us... not one bit by Jeff_UK2005-01-16 21:44:43
        Just found this, the emphasis made me lol :) by Jeff_UK2006-11-19 12:55:59
  Thoughts. by Slack2006-11-19 12:55:59
    Nota bene: by Slack2005-01-16 22:09:34
    My stance: by Llyr2005-01-16 22:14:31
    I will admit that I differ from many others by hadji2005-01-16 22:39:30
      Funny how you arrive at that part about who goes by Tars_Tarkas2005-01-16 22:51:39
  By the way, guesswhatguesswhatguesswhat!! by Llyr2005-01-16 22:18:10

 

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