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22 soldiers dead in a mess tent today by Kickstart2004-12-21 09:51:40
  Body Count: Min 14880, Max 17076 by MikeCDN2006-11-19 12:55:59
    Ah the site with flawed methodology by DesertRat662006-11-19 12:55:59
      You'll also note a couple of problems with those by Liava2004-12-21 13:12:37
        The point was by DesertRat662004-12-21 13:36:04
          Sure, so it may be a left-wing site by Liava 2004-12-21 13:53:53
That doesn't make it wrong any more than Fox News is necessarily wrong. It just means that anything that we read should be taken with a grain of salt. Since the US government isn't releasing any hard numbers, there's not much else to go by, so, although we all know it may be flawed, it's better than nothing.

As for the anti-war kook, people like that are generally ignored by both liberals and conservatives, just as the more extreme right-wingers are ignored. As much as Iraq was a bad idea, it must be finished, or things will be far worse than before, and morons like that aren't helping. That one person has no bearing on the credibility of other anti-war proponents, and I resent your implication otherwise. Most anti-war people (from which I've heard) agree that the job must be finished; our contention is that it shouldn't have been started.

And I'm not criticizing the troops at all. There are, obviously, some bad apples, as is evidenced by the torture and mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners. I'm sure they do believe what they are doing is right, and I'm sure they all have their own ways of justifying it, but regardless of how many people believe or how strongly they believe it, it doesn't make it right. I'm not laying the blame at the feet of the troops; I'm putting it at the feet of the administration and every person who decided that Bush should be elected for another four years.
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