|
Death Penalty | by BuggedEyes | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
|
The death penalty is indefensible. | by mmell | 2004-12-14 08:00:26 |
|
*sigh* How about practicality? | by Voltigeur | 2004-12-14 08:10:37 |
|
Another reason as well: | by phezult | 2004-12-14 08:20:02 |
|
Fallacy detected. | by mmell | 2004-12-14 08:28:03 |
|
I agree that capital punishment is not a deterrent | by HeyRef | 2004-12-14 08:47:44 |
|
I take your point. | by mmell | 2004-12-14 08:52:34 |
| accidental death != murder |
by HeyRef |
2004-12-14 09:28:02 |
mmell wrote: "I fail to see how accident or negligence can mitigate or extenuate a murder. The victim is still dead."
My father was killed in a steel mill when a co-worker accidentally activated a crane that Dad was working on. The co-worker did not know anyone was in the danger zone and the safety equipment that should have warned him malfunctioned. It was a regrettable accident and one that still hurts me badly. But I cannot call this man a murderer. I'm not angry with him and I never wanted to see him punished.
Had Dad been killed in cold blood by a gunman, yes I'd be angry. And you can bet I'd want to see the killer punished.
Correct me if I read you wrong, but it sounds like you'd equate both scenarios. My father is dead either way. Yet I can see a difference.
Death is not always murder. There are shades of grey. Punishment should fit the crime and sometimes that means identifying the intent of the accused. That can be a difficult task and is arguably the root of our jury system. A dozen men and women must be convinced before a verdict of guilty can be handed down. The appeal system exists to minimize the number of false positives. It isn't a perfect system, but it's pretty darned good. |
|
[ Reply ] |
|
Ahhh . . . shades of gray. | by mmell | 2004-12-14 09:55:21 |
|
No. People are driven by emotion entirely too | by NOLAWitch | 2004-12-14 10:05:06 |
|
Danny Lee Young drove his car into a crowd... | by mmell | 2004-12-14 10:12:44 |
|
Does not matter if we are wise enough | by Ston | 2004-12-14 10:06:31 |
|
s/punish/not punish/ (n/t) | by Ston | 2004-12-14 10:07:10 |
|
So that makes us different from the murderer . . . | by mmell | 2004-12-14 10:13:45 |
|
We recognize that the | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 10:37:34 |
|
Yes, but how is that value greater than that . . . | by mmell | 2004-12-14 11:47:42 |
|
The murderer has declared that his life | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 12:14:37 |
|
Ergo, two wrongs make a right, yes? (n/t) | by mmell | 2004-12-14 13:20:45 |
|
So, one gang banger shooting another gang banger | by NOLAWitch | 2004-12-14 15:29:06 |
|
Yes, if he did not need to die. | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 15:45:09 |
|
no In that instance I hope for the best | by joecrouse | 2004-12-14 19:38:37 |
|
Only if your believe | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 15:35:01 |
|
If the ultimate crime is killing someone... | by MikeCDN | 2004-12-14 15:37:07 |
|
Yes, but no. | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 15:42:49 |
|
but what if someone is executed by mistake? | by MikeCDN | 2004-12-14 15:53:22 |
|
Mistake != unjustified. | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 16:09:28 |
|
So if... | by MikeCDN | 2004-12-14 16:13:18 |
|
Not justified, because | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 16:17:04 |
|
The state is made up of people | by MikeCDN | 2004-12-14 16:29:34 |
|
And... | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 17:01:00 |
|
Saying that they are different | by MikeCDN | 2004-12-14 17:06:39 |
|
They are different. | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 18:28:52 |
|
but what if someone is executed by mistake? | by MikeCDN | 2004-12-14 15:54:12 |
|
No (n/t) | by joecrouse | 2004-12-14 19:39:58 |
|
easy question | by joecrouse | 2004-12-14 19:36:42 |
|
That question | by Ston | 2004-12-14 16:09:45 |
|
In some cultures, accidental killing *does* equal | by HadEnuf | 2004-12-14 10:24:11 |
