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Death Penalty | by BuggedEyes | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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The death penalty is indefensible. | by mmell | 2004-12-14 08:00:26 |
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*sigh* How about practicality? | by Voltigeur | 2004-12-14 08:10:37 |
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Another reason as well: | by phezult | 2004-12-14 08:20:02 |
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Fallacy detected. | by mmell | 2004-12-14 08:28:03 |
| I agree that capital punishment is not a deterrent |
by HeyRef |
2004-12-14 08:47:44 |
but your example of an accidental death is flawed. The death penalty is not supposed to deter such an occurrance (notice I do not call it a crime, though some other crime such as negligence may be involved).
Those who use the deterrence argument are talking about premeditated murder. It MAY be a deterrent for a few cases, but IMO, not enough to make it a valid justification for the death penalty. And in a crime of passion, a murderer probably isn't going to be thinking clearly enough to consider the consequences of his act.
Does anyone have a statistic on percentage of murders as crimes of passion compared to premeditated? |
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I take your point. | by mmell | 2004-12-14 08:52:34 |
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accidental death != murder | by HeyRef | 2004-12-14 09:28:02 |
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Ahhh . . . shades of gray. | by mmell | 2004-12-14 09:55:21 |
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No. People are driven by emotion entirely too | by NOLAWitch | 2004-12-14 10:05:06 |
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Danny Lee Young drove his car into a crowd... | by mmell | 2004-12-14 10:12:44 |
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Does not matter if we are wise enough | by Ston | 2004-12-14 10:06:31 |
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s/punish/not punish/ (n/t) | by Ston | 2004-12-14 10:07:10 |
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So that makes us different from the murderer . . . | by mmell | 2004-12-14 10:13:45 |
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We recognize that the | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 10:37:34 |
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Yes, but how is that value greater than that . . . | by mmell | 2004-12-14 11:47:42 |
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The murderer has declared that his life | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 12:14:37 |
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Ergo, two wrongs make a right, yes? (n/t) | by mmell | 2004-12-14 13:20:45 |
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So, one gang banger shooting another gang banger | by NOLAWitch | 2004-12-14 15:29:06 |
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Yes, if he did not need to die. | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 15:45:09 |
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no In that instance I hope for the best | by joecrouse | 2004-12-14 19:38:37 |
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Only if your believe | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 15:35:01 |
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If the ultimate crime is killing someone... | by MikeCDN | 2004-12-14 15:37:07 |
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Yes, but no. | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 15:42:49 |
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but what if someone is executed by mistake? | by MikeCDN | 2004-12-14 15:53:22 |
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Mistake != unjustified. | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 16:09:28 |
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So if... | by MikeCDN | 2004-12-14 16:13:18 |
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Not justified, because | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 16:17:04 |
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The state is made up of people | by MikeCDN | 2004-12-14 16:29:34 |
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And... | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 17:01:00 |
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Saying that they are different | by MikeCDN | 2004-12-14 17:06:39 |
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They are different. | by ManiacJoe | 2004-12-14 18:28:52 |
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but what if someone is executed by mistake? | by MikeCDN | 2004-12-14 15:54:12 |
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No (n/t) | by joecrouse | 2004-12-14 19:39:58 |
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easy question | by joecrouse | 2004-12-14 19:36:42 |
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That question | by Ston | 2004-12-14 16:09:45 |
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In some cultures, accidental killing *does* equal | by HadEnuf | 2004-12-14 10:24:11 |
