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The daily flamebait by Arachnid2004-10-21 02:00:38
  Depends by Spisefisken2004-10-21 02:09:19
    Wasn't it Freud that held the view... by Arachnid2004-10-21 02:11:22
      I agree with you there by Yaeger2004-10-21 03:45:29
        Huh? by Spisefisken2004-10-21 04:08:23
          I think you're missing my point somewhat by Yaeger2004-10-21 04:44:51
            You might not expect it consciously by Spisefisken2004-10-21 04:53:48
              The *real* point I am trying to make by Yaeger2004-10-21 07:15:43
                But are acting selfish by Spisefisken2004-10-21 07:28:56
                  And it makes you feel good to know by Yaeger2004-10-21 07:41:03
                    You just assume it will devalue the action. by Naruki2004-10-21 07:51:28
                      I'll try to explain by Yaeger2004-10-21 08:06:48
                        Suppose you seek an altruistic reason by Naruki2004-10-21 08:23:33
                          This is by far a mental exercise by Yaeger2004-10-21 08:32:25
                            The obverse is equally "true". by Naruki2004-10-21 08:49:33
                              Which in my mind means that by Yaeger2004-10-21 08:52:15
                                I don't know whether Naruki agrees, but . . . by HadEnuf2004-10-21 08:54:55
                                Which means we don't agree with Yaeger. by Naruki2004-10-21 08:58:18
                                Not entirely certain of that by HadEnuf 2004-10-21 09:16:42
I think we *may be* dealing more with an attempt to get at an all-too-common hidden assumption, on the part
of the postulated beneficiary. If you will, the postulate may taken to be that the beneficiary is postulating the
absolutes[1], and thus suffering from the ill effects of an internalized fallacy.

In particular, the "trap" is not in the nature of the actual motives, or even that of the perceived motives, but
rather in the value one assigns to those motives. While this did not seem to be clear in the initial posts, Yaeger
does *seem* to agree *somewhat* with my analysis, *on that particular point*.

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HadEnuf?

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[1] Holy meta-postulations, Batman! This is starting to feel like Alices conversation with the kindly old knight.
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