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The daily flamebait by Arachnid2004-10-21 02:00:38
  Depends by Spisefisken2004-10-21 02:09:19
    Wasn't it Freud that held the view... by Arachnid2004-10-21 02:11:22
      I agree with you there by Yaeger2004-10-21 03:45:29
        Huh? by Spisefisken2004-10-21 04:08:23
          I think you're missing my point somewhat by Yaeger2004-10-21 04:44:51
            You might not expect it consciously by Spisefisken2004-10-21 04:53:48
              The *real* point I am trying to make by Yaeger2004-10-21 07:15:43
                But are acting selfish by Spisefisken2004-10-21 07:28:56
                  And it makes you feel good to know by Yaeger2004-10-21 07:41:03
                    You just assume it will devalue the action. by Naruki2004-10-21 07:51:28
                      I'll try to explain by Yaeger 2004-10-21 08:06:48
First of all, I think that this does not cause a problem for everybody. Just for some people, but I wouldn't call them shallow. I feel it's a psychological trap, which *can* be very dangerous.

Suppose you seek a selfish reason behind every altruistic act. The person performing that act couldn't possibly be doing it for you then, otherwise it would not be selfish. Thinking this way, how could any altruistic act towards you make you feel good if there is only a selfish reason behind it ?
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                        Suppose you seek an altruistic reason by Naruki2004-10-21 08:23:33
                          Well put, on paranoia and zealotry, . . . by HadEnuf2004-10-21 08:28:19
                          This is by far a mental exercise by Yaeger2004-10-21 08:32:25
                            That does not necessarily follow by HadEnuf2006-11-19 12:55:59
                              Which is *exactly* the trap I am thinking of. by Yaeger2004-10-21 08:54:41
                                Then we are approaching the same point, . . . by HadEnuf2004-10-21 09:04:04
                                I'm approaching it from the point by Yaeger2004-10-21 09:15:13
                                And I am approaching it from *my* experience, by HadEnuf2004-10-21 09:24:12
                                Great, an argument over something we agree on :) (n/t) by Yaeger2004-10-21 09:34:57
                                No, everyone *is* capable of the sane "attitude" by HadEnuf2004-10-21 10:05:27
                                Sorry, but I don't think everyone by Yaeger2004-10-21 10:20:31
                                I might buy "unwilling", but not "incapable" by HadEnuf2004-10-21 11:09:08
                                Mmm, difficult one. by Yaeger2004-10-21 12:23:35
                            The obverse is equally "true". by Naruki2004-10-21 08:49:33
                              Which in my mind means that by Yaeger2004-10-21 08:52:15
                                I don't know whether Naruki agrees, but . . . by HadEnuf2004-10-21 08:54:55
                                Which means we don't agree with Yaeger. by Naruki2004-10-21 08:58:18
                                Not entirely certain of that by HadEnuf2004-10-21 09:16:42
                        Regardless of my benefactor's motives, by HadEnuf2004-10-21 08:27:05
                          I think you're spot on with the evaluation bit. by Yaeger2004-10-21 08:41:43
                            Not true by HadEnuf2004-10-21 09:02:44
                              The thing I am arguing for by Yaeger2004-10-21 09:13:21
                                That seems to be the first time you've made that by Naruki2004-10-21 09:24:14
                                Hey, grant *some* points for *trying* by HadEnuf2004-10-21 09:26:26
                                In future, it would help by Yaeger2004-10-21 09:39:07
                                I didn't burn you at all. That's in your mind. by Naruki2004-10-21 15:19:40

 

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