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The daily flamebait | by Arachnid | 2004-10-21 02:00:38 |
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Depends | by Spisefisken | 2004-10-21 02:09:19 |
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Wasn't it Freud that held the view... | by Arachnid | 2004-10-21 02:11:22 |
| I agree with you there |
by Yaeger |
2004-10-21 03:45:29 |
| Although I think that the quote itself is true, I also believe it to be dangerous. You can seriously damage your trust in someone by seeking selfish motives behind altruistic acts towards you. |
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Huh? | by Spisefisken | 2004-10-21 04:08:23 |
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I think you're missing my point somewhat | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 04:44:51 |
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Take a step back | by Control | 2004-10-21 04:50:54 |
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You feel that | by Matthewdba | 2004-10-21 05:00:58 |
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looky here | by Control | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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You might not expect it consciously | by Spisefisken | 2004-10-21 04:53:48 |
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So you're saying | by Matthewdba | 2004-10-21 04:57:29 |
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Think of where the concepts of 'relationship, ... | by Control | 2004-10-21 05:02:46 |
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By that reckoning | by Matthewdba | 2004-10-21 05:07:26 |
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Then it is just a dispute over definition | by Spisefisken | 2004-10-21 05:12:22 |
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Yes I do not believe the situation described | by Spisefisken | 2004-10-21 05:04:15 |
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But how can you know | by Matthewdba | 2004-10-21 05:11:16 |
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Alternativ explanation? | by Control | 2004-10-21 05:14:32 |
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I disagree | by Matthewdba | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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Because we are animals | by Spisefisken | 2004-10-21 05:15:24 |
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Assuming of course | by Matthewdba | 2004-10-21 05:18:57 |
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However, we are still nothing *less* than animals, | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 05:46:10 |
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True | by Matthewdba | 2004-10-21 05:52:08 |
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No, our *motivations* would be the superset | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 06:41:46 |
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How can you know the obverse? | by Naruki | 2004-10-21 05:37:17 |
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I don't believe I have less proof | by Matthewdba | 2004-10-21 05:49:48 |
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I get the impression that's exactly Narui's point: | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 05:59:13 |
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s/Narui/Naruki/ # Maye there's a corollary . . . | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 06:00:07 |
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I agree. That is also why I have stated 'Believe' | by Spisefisken | 2004-10-21 06:07:14 |
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or everybody is right | by Matthewdba | 2004-10-21 06:11:05 |
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geez I even previewed that | by Matthewdba | 2004-10-21 06:13:35 |
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Yep. That's why we're talking "theory", | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 06:48:44 |
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Actually, he is already getting something back, | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 05:38:59 |
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The *real* point I am trying to make | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 07:15:43 |
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But are acting selfish | by Spisefisken | 2004-10-21 07:28:56 |
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And it makes you feel good to know | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 07:41:03 |
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That is how the world works | by Spisefisken | 2004-10-21 07:44:39 |
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Does it ? | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 07:54:44 |
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By "selfish reason", do you mean . . . | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 08:40:08 |
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To answer the question, neither. | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 08:44:55 |
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What is the sound of one hand clapping? | by Naruki | 2004-10-21 08:51:34 |
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What impossible restrictions ? | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 08:57:49 |
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In your statement. | by Naruki | 2004-10-21 09:02:10 |
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If you want to interpret it that way | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 09:32:12 |
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It's just that, in your first statement, . . . | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 09:54:23 |
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That's it exactly. | by Naruki | 2004-10-21 15:17:07 |
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There simply *is* no such situation, as I see it | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 08:53:00 |
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You just assume it will devalue the action. | by Naruki | 2004-10-21 07:51:28 |
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I'll try to explain | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 08:06:48 |
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Suppose you seek an altruistic reason | by Naruki | 2004-10-21 08:23:33 |
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Well put, on paranoia and zealotry, . . . | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 08:28:19 |
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This is by far a mental exercise | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 08:32:25 |
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That does not necessarily follow | by HadEnuf | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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Which is *exactly* the trap I am thinking of. | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 08:54:41 |
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Then we are approaching the same point, . . . | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 09:04:04 |
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I'm approaching it from the point | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 09:15:13 |
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And I am approaching it from *my* experience, | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 09:24:12 |
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Great, an argument over something we agree on :) (n/t) | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 09:34:57 |
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No, everyone *is* capable of the sane "attitude" | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 10:05:27 |
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Sorry, but I don't think everyone | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 10:20:31 |
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I might buy "unwilling", but not "incapable" | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 11:09:08 |
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Mmm, difficult one. | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 12:23:35 |
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The obverse is equally "true". | by Naruki | 2004-10-21 08:49:33 |
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Which in my mind means that | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 08:52:15 |
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I don't know whether Naruki agrees, but . . . | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 08:54:55 |
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Which means we don't agree with Yaeger. | by Naruki | 2004-10-21 08:58:18 |
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Not entirely certain of that | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 09:16:42 |
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Regardless of my benefactor's motives, | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 08:27:05 |
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I think you're spot on with the evaluation bit. | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 08:41:43 |
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Not true | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 09:02:44 |
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The thing I am arguing for | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 09:13:21 |
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That seems to be the first time you've made that | by Naruki | 2004-10-21 09:24:14 |
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Hey, grant *some* points for *trying* | by HadEnuf | 2004-10-21 09:26:26 |
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In future, it would help | by Yaeger | 2004-10-21 09:39:07 |
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I didn't burn you at all. That's in your mind. | by Naruki | 2004-10-21 15:19:40 |