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US admits defeat in Iraq? by toxin 2006-11-19 12:55:59
Mr. Bush, Sir...
You have invaded Iraq to deal with weapons of mass destruction. none were found.

You have changed the rationale to "freedom for Iraq". Your Defense Secretary has just said that you are not in control of at least 20% of the country. CNN

Is this not an admission that the US has effectively (politically and diplomatically) LOST the war?
[ Reply ]
  Heck no. by Illiad2004-09-24 09:16:45
    Spinnery again! by Matthewdba2004-09-24 09:17:52
    Isn't spin just repeatedly turning the corner by toxin2004-09-24 09:19:57
    "You spin me right round baby by airborneric2004-09-24 09:24:44
      BLAM! by Avium2004-09-24 09:25:46
        Thank you (n/t) by demonhedge2004-09-24 10:29:34
    To turn the corner, we must stay the course. by nin_man2004-09-24 09:28:57
    Funny, the went to establish democracy... by Pandilex2004-09-24 09:29:00
      true, but... by neksys2004-09-24 09:45:34
        Really? Not here. by Naruki2004-09-24 09:46:27
          Thats what I mean... by neksys2004-09-24 09:50:35
            I'd love to see a real democracy. by Naruki2004-09-24 09:56:21
              Seems to me we went through that before. by Avium2004-09-24 10:30:47
                None of the past governments seemed to want by Naruki2004-09-24 10:35:50
                  From what I understand... by Avium2004-09-24 10:42:42
                    We still have to consider each state by Naruki2004-09-24 10:51:03
                    I still think by Matthewdba2004-09-24 10:52:48
      the problem with compromise by Matthewdba2004-09-24 09:49:17
        One of my favorite sayings by thread_killer2004-09-24 11:29:56
    A little Leftist spinnery by BloodyViking2004-09-24 10:18:38
      Still being fought? by Naruki2004-09-24 10:21:07
        The "Mission" may have been accomplished by BloodyViking2004-09-24 10:29:30
  That has got to be..... by thread_killer2004-09-24 09:24:31
    Excuse me. Who was the aggressor in that situation by McNutcase2004-09-24 09:26:02
      You are confusing by thread_killer2004-09-24 09:32:02
        Then pick a better analogy. by McNutcase2004-09-24 09:33:47
        No... by Naruki2004-09-24 09:40:59
          What the frell... by McNutcase2004-09-24 09:42:42
            YOU misread, too. by Naruki2004-09-24 09:42:59
              I know. by McNutcase2004-09-24 09:44:06
                Nope. by Naruki2004-09-24 09:45:42
                  Perhaps I see more ambuiguity than you... by McNutcase2004-09-24 09:49:10
                    To remove any incongruity... by Naruki2004-09-24 09:54:18
                      It appears our grammar differs significantly, then by McNutcase2004-09-24 09:57:58
                        I find that hard to believe. by Naruki2004-09-24 10:02:04
                          Hardly. It's a very uncommon case... by McNutcase2004-09-24 10:05:29
                            Unfortunately for you by Matthewdba2004-09-24 10:07:47
                              That expresses what I was trying to joke about... by McNutcase2004-09-24 10:09:08
                                It was my lot, as well. by Naruki2004-09-24 10:14:30
                                From my POV... by McNutcase2004-09-24 10:17:41
                                Thats exactly what the hyphen indicates... by neksys2004-09-24 10:20:34
                                we need GAAP for English! :-) (n/t) by Matthewdba2004-09-24 10:37:06
                                None of you "invented" it... by neksys2004-09-24 10:19:08
                                not to mention by Matthewdba2004-09-24 10:22:05
                                Thats easy "rout" ;-) (n/t) by cristobal2004-09-24 10:26:25
                                Nope, depends on context. by LionsPhil2004-09-24 10:37:57
                                ooh ooh by Matthewdba2004-09-24 10:41:54
                              Clarification... non- is a prefix... by neksys2004-09-24 10:12:55
                                so... nobody knows WHAT'S right, but... by McNutcase2004-09-24 10:15:49
                                I think your first statement is incorrect. by Naruki2004-09-24 10:20:35
                                Click here to win! by neksys2006-11-19 12:55:59
                                nonuse is goodnuse! (n/t) by Matthewdba2004-09-24 10:31:01
                                Sorry, that's a style guide for that Uni. by Naruki2004-09-24 10:32:06
                                My Chicago Manual of Style... by neksys2004-09-24 10:51:53
                                He can breathe down your neck all he wants. by Naruki2004-09-24 11:27:04
                                According to my American Heritage Dictionary by Matthewdba2004-09-24 10:36:31
                                The qualifier "normally" is also important. by Naruki2004-09-24 10:39:10
                                I took "normally" to mean by Matthewdba2004-09-24 10:41:14
                                Sure it is.... by neksys2004-09-24 11:07:59
                                Why would I do that? by Naruki2004-09-24 11:27:50
                                prefixes are not always written by Matthewdba2004-09-24 10:24:27
                                That's what I said... by neksys2004-09-24 10:26:42
                                oops my fault by Matthewdba2004-09-24 10:30:01
                                But you are wrong. by Naruki2004-09-24 10:34:29
                                and dictionary.com says otherwise by tigermouse2004-09-24 10:51:43
                                "... Naruki... in the altogether..." by Naruki2004-09-24 11:05:29
                                Why militant? by tigermouse2004-09-24 11:11:07
                                Why huh? by Naruki2004-09-24 11:28:58
                                I meant why would anyone have gotten so? by tigermouse2004-09-24 11:36:49
                                I've found no evidence to the contrary... by neksys2004-09-24 11:06:33
                                Good for you! by Naruki2004-09-24 11:32:40
          How can one proclaim defeat by thread_killer2004-09-24 10:21:24
            *standing ovation* by neksys2004-09-24 10:34:31
            Thank you for your service. by Arcanum2004-09-24 10:52:48
              The third option by thread_killer2004-09-24 11:19:25
                Problem: by Arcanum2004-09-24 11:28:05
                  It's never indefinate by thread_killer2004-09-24 11:31:02
                    I can tell you they won't concede. by Arcanum2004-09-24 11:35:58
                      Interesting point by thread_killer2004-09-24 14:10:47
                Sounds a lot like by Matthewdba2004-09-24 11:28:09
            OK, it's not LOST. But the US, under Bush by toxin2004-09-24 12:55:44
      Kumquats. (n/t) by PsychoI3oy2004-09-24 09:33:23
    If the US only controlled 75 to 80% of Japan by toxin2004-09-24 09:42:27
  In that same article... by shepmagoo2004-09-24 09:36:24
    So you're voting against Bush? by Naruki2004-09-24 09:41:43
    He's not biased at all is he? by cristobal2004-09-24 09:53:10
    I don't agree by Matthewdba2004-09-24 10:04:58
      On the topic of freedom by Illiad2004-09-24 10:11:01
        I was surprised to realize that by Matthewdba2004-09-24 10:19:20
          Its a colonial thing... by neksys2004-09-24 11:13:50
        That does not mean by shepmagoo2004-09-24 10:28:06
          Of course it doesn't. by Illiad2004-09-24 11:01:13
            Point taken then, however.. by shepmagoo2004-09-24 11:14:07
              Don't go back. by Illiad2004-09-24 12:21:55
                Dude! by Naruki2004-09-24 12:27:21
                  mmmm... by Illiad2004-09-24 12:31:27
                    Acorn-flavored crack?! Ewwww!!! by Arcanum2004-09-24 12:57:02
                      That's why I like candymaking by Matthewdba2004-09-24 14:25:15
        I concur (n/t) by thread_killer2004-09-24 11:28:41
      It was a blanket statement by shepmagoo2004-09-24 10:44:52
        Is it because of our beliefs and our freedom by Matthewdba2004-09-24 10:50:38
          Good point by shepmagoo2004-09-24 10:57:49
  Winning the war and control of the by buddha2004-09-24 09:44:19
    The US won the battles. No question. The battles by toxin2004-09-24 09:52:52
    The operation was a success, but the patient died. (n/t) by NOLAWitch2004-09-24 09:53:31
    Er, um, no. by Illiad2004-09-24 09:55:25
      Was the war again the Hussein regime by buddha2004-09-24 10:16:19
        Easy answer... by Kickstart2004-09-24 10:21:55
        Wars are against nation-states. by Illiad2004-09-24 10:22:25
          A perfect example... by neksys2004-09-24 11:25:46

 

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