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GOP vows to ban same-sex marriage by FireballMatt2006-11-19 12:55:59
  Santorum is such a pr*ck! by NOLAWitch2004-07-14 06:48:15
    What pisses me off the most about these @$$holes by NOLAWitch2004-07-14 07:30:16
      Doesn't parse for me by DesertRat662004-07-14 08:21:51
        Yes it DOES violate the First Amendment in by NOLAWitch2004-07-14 08:33:50
          Once again by DesertRat662004-07-14 09:21:28
            I told you why. by Ravenlock2006-11-19 12:55:59
              O.K. I'll ask another question by DesertRat662004-07-14 09:49:32
                No, because we have a SECULAR by Ravenlock2004-07-14 10:00:51
                  What secular reasoning? by DesertRat662004-07-14 10:09:36
                    We've had this debate before. by Ravenlock 2004-07-14 10:15:04
Maybe you weren't around when we did. Would you next argue that before the First Commandment came around, murder was an acceptable part of society?

Almost all of our laws have some ethical/moral component, and if you want to, you can argue all day that the root (or a root) of those components were religious in nature.

However, there are plenty of good arguments for the prohibition of murder outside religion, which is why pretty much every human society in history, regardless of their faith or lack thereof, has agreed it's a good rule to have. "The first commandment says so" is not an acceptable basis for a law. "Society cannot be sustain itself if its citizens are allowed to go around killing whoever they want" is.

There are no valid arguments for outlawing homosexual marriage that do not stem from "religion told me it's wrong." Until some arise, the only support for it is religious, and to base an amendment solely on that - AGAIN - is unconstitutional.
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                      I probably wasn't by DesertRat662006-11-19 12:55:59
                        Um, the First Commandment is: "Thou shalt have by NOLAWitch2004-07-14 10:29:46
                          LOL. Nicely done. by Ravenlock2004-07-14 10:32:53
                            If he hadn't posted it at least twice, I was going by NOLAWitch2004-07-14 10:35:44
                          My mistake by DesertRat662004-07-14 10:37:03
                            <Dorothy>Here's your oil can!</Dorothy> (n/t) by NOLAWitch2004-07-14 10:39:45
                              Man, when the tin man shows up, by Ravenlock2004-07-14 10:40:52
                                Since you lost your stuffing, that makes you the by NOLAWitch2004-07-14 10:41:45
                                I dunno... by Ravenlock2004-07-14 10:44:01
                                But the point of the movie was that they by NOLAWitch2004-07-14 10:46:24
                                ...Hunh. by Ravenlock2004-07-14 10:50:03
                        Lemme clarify. Hopefully this'll work. by Ravenlock2004-07-14 10:31:32
                          s/it's is/it's. Can't type to save my life today. (n/t) by Ravenlock2004-07-14 10:33:44
                            *gives Ravenlock's stuffing back* by NOLAWitch2004-07-14 10:36:47
                              Whew! We'll try it with that. Thanks! ;-) (n/t) by Ravenlock2004-07-14 10:38:21
                          Hitting the brakes and hitting them hard by DesertRat662006-11-19 12:55:59
                            NOLAwitch please read ^^^ (n/t) by DesertRat662004-07-14 11:27:06
                            Yes, it was my assumption... by Ravenlock2004-07-14 11:33:52
                              By the way, by Ravenlock2004-07-14 11:39:55
                                s/what where/was where. *Sigh* :-p (n/t) by Ravenlock2004-07-14 11:40:16
                                What tipped me off by DesertRat662004-07-14 11:46:34
                                Group hug. ;-) by Ravenlock2004-07-14 11:47:43
                              In that case by DesertRat662004-07-14 11:40:14
                                I agree, and I wonder too. ;-) by Ravenlock2004-07-14 11:40:56
                            My take... by Naruki2004-07-14 11:40:00
                              I assumed that "legal incidents thereof" by Ravenlock2004-07-14 11:43:34
                                Support for that, though I don't... by Ravenlock2006-11-19 12:55:59
                              i guess that means then by gibuu2004-07-14 13:34:22
                            Those words "legal incidents" DO enable the by NOLAWitch2004-07-14 11:43:52
                              Now that I have read the ammendment by DesertRat662004-07-14 11:51:50
                                Elections should be easy enough: dump the by NOLAWitch2004-07-14 11:57:46
                                Problem is by DesertRat662004-07-14 12:02:09
                                I second the motion. All in favor say "Aye". (n/t by talon07202004-07-14 14:02:28

 

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