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Attn: Naruki by Ravenlock2006-11-19 12:55:59
  To distinguish... by Naruki2004-07-12 10:23:09
    And I think your characterization is wrong. by Ravenlock2004-07-12 10:50:50
      Can anyone claim to speak for what by Naruki2004-07-12 11:57:33
        Attempt at answers. by Ravenlock2004-07-12 12:11:38
          Well... by Naruki2004-07-12 12:44:03
            Not "haven't thought about it." "Don't know." by Ravenlock2004-07-12 12:58:00
              What I meant was that you currently hold by Naruki2004-07-12 13:07:12
                *Shrug* I went through "Battleground God" by Ravenlock2004-07-12 14:09:19
                  Nobody *knows* the rules. So what? by Naruki2004-07-12 14:14:37
                    Why? by Ravenlock2004-07-12 14:27:49
                      Ah... by Naruki2004-07-12 14:35:08
                        Sorry I didn't make it more clear. by Ravenlock2004-07-12 14:55:03
                          It's not inconsistent... by Naruki2004-07-12 14:58:19
                            You haven't stated... by Ravenlock2004-07-12 15:03:09
                              Didn't want to be redundant. by Naruki2004-07-12 15:23:58
                                Fair enough. :-p by Ravenlock2004-07-12 15:28:51
                                And you're probably right. by Ravenlock2004-07-12 15:29:40
                                Actually, one more clarification... by Ravenlock 2004-07-12 15:39:33
of my position, since I keep running it through my head and it still isn't coming out quite right on paper.

I'm in the "faith and works" camp in as much as I believe that no matter how much good you do, you're going to screw up, you're going to sin, you can't "save" yourself. God will forgive the sin, however, so long as one's intentions aren't consistently evil or anything.

The difference between myself and the "faith and works" camp is that I don't accept as "fact" that God only ever forgives Christians, or a certain type of Christian, or any specific group. Which takes away the "faith" part as many people understand it.

So it isn't "works" because it isn't "good = Heaven, bad = Hell." We're going to do bad no matter what. But it isn't "faith and works" because I don't believe God limits salvation to the Christian faithful exclusively. I choose to do the faith part, but I don't believe it's necessarily requisite.

Does that make any sense? I'm appreciating the practice in explaining it.
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