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Attn: Naruki by Ravenlock2006-11-19 12:55:59
  To distinguish... by Naruki2004-07-12 10:23:09
    And I think your characterization is wrong. by Ravenlock2004-07-12 10:50:50
      Can anyone claim to speak for what by Naruki 2004-07-12 11:57:33
most Christians do? Beats me, nor do I care, really. When _generalizing_, I use the _popular_ image of Christianity. As I understand it, of course.

Most people I know would agree with me _in general_ about what happens if a Christian sins without repentence.

Your last three groups are apparently _some_ of the subsets of Free Will Belief (as distinct from Free Will Reality). And your first group seemed unclear on the concept. Are you trying to describe Predestination Belief or Predestination Reality? In either event, it avoids covering the aspect of Predestination itself, which is concerned with your earthly life having no real choices - anything you do was preprogrammed somehow, down to tying your shoes on the 3rd day of January at 8 AM.

I still have some questions about your groups, though.
Group 2: if Hitler had true faith, could he have gotten in?
Group 3: would a person with true faith but little application (who nevertheless did nothing sinful) not make it in?
Group 4: do believers who committed an atrocious sin and died before they had a chance to repent get in or not?
[ Reply ]
        Attempt at answers. by Ravenlock2004-07-12 12:11:38
          Well... by Naruki2004-07-12 12:44:03
            Not "haven't thought about it." "Don't know." by Ravenlock2004-07-12 12:58:00
              What I meant was that you currently hold by Naruki2004-07-12 13:07:12
                *Shrug* I went through "Battleground God" by Ravenlock2004-07-12 14:09:19
                  Nobody *knows* the rules. So what? by Naruki2004-07-12 14:14:37
                    Why? by Ravenlock2004-07-12 14:27:49
                      The "He" for God is arbitrary, by the way. by Ravenlock2004-07-12 14:29:44
                        Maybe it's a canine gender. by Naruki2004-07-12 14:35:45
                          :-p (n/t) by Ravenlock2004-07-12 14:55:26
                      Ah... by Naruki2004-07-12 14:35:08
                        Sorry I didn't make it more clear. by Ravenlock2004-07-12 14:55:03
                          It's not inconsistent... by Naruki2004-07-12 14:58:19
                            You haven't stated... by Ravenlock2004-07-12 15:03:09
                              Didn't want to be redundant. by Naruki2004-07-12 15:23:58
                                Fair enough. :-p by Ravenlock2004-07-12 15:28:51
                                And you're probably right. by Ravenlock2004-07-12 15:29:40
                                Actually, one more clarification... by Ravenlock2004-07-12 15:39:33

 

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