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Consider the Death Penalty... by DesertRat66 2006-11-19 12:55:59
especially if you are for it. Read this story and think about it. What if he was telling the truth?

It leaves me more convinced than ever that the bar for the death penalty needs to be set VERY high. So high in fact, that executions are rare. IMO things like eyewitnesses AND DNA evidence should be necessary to pass that sentence.
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  only two crimes diserve death by defect2004-01-15 07:43:08
    and spawn camping (n/t) by demonhedge2004-01-15 07:59:25
      And team kills, and... by LionsPhil2004-01-15 08:17:12
        hey! It was seawall battery! by Ubergeek22004-01-15 08:24:07
          I was trying to take it. by Naruki2004-01-15 09:47:53
  I agree... by Monitr72004-01-15 07:56:21
    Correction by DesertRat662004-01-15 08:00:15
      I stand corrected. Thanks, Rat. (n/t) by Monitr72004-01-15 08:30:31
        Don't mention it by DesertRat662004-01-15 10:06:02
  I used to be in favor of Capital Punishment by Slamlander2004-01-15 08:01:12
    Someone mentioned a couple days ago by subbywan2004-01-15 08:13:58
    The blocking of DNA testing by tigermouse2004-01-15 08:20:12
      Yes, I read that and was appalled! by Slamlander2004-01-15 09:03:57
    Which victimless crimes? by LionsPhil2004-01-15 08:23:20
      Drug use by DarthSane2004-01-15 08:24:46
        Ok, yup, that's one of them. by LionsPhil2004-01-15 08:26:45
          and then there is prostitution by Slamlander2004-01-15 08:53:48
            Indeed. (n/t) by LionsPhil2004-01-15 08:56:17
      There's also the definition of "victim" by JohnClarke2004-01-15 09:17:07
    Prisons in America have become a new by webishop2004-01-15 08:31:53
  What DNA evidence would there be in a shooting? by BloodyViking2004-01-15 08:12:57
    "multiple reliable witnesses"... by delcted2004-01-15 08:43:08
      That's why _multiple_ by JohnClarke2004-01-15 09:11:35
        Is 20 enough? by delcted2004-01-15 09:43:57
          continuation by delcted2004-01-15 09:52:32
            I'd want more details by JohnClarke2004-01-15 10:07:41
              Some of the details by delcted2004-01-15 10:36:18
    Agree agree and agree by DesertRat662004-01-15 10:05:28
  But do consider also just how unreliable by webishop2004-01-15 08:33:55
    You stole the word right out of my mouth. by skeptic2004-01-15 09:14:18
      Sadly... by Illiad2004-01-15 09:30:53
    Which is precisely why by DesertRat662004-01-15 10:01:10
  NOTHING "deserves" death. If you are for it as a by adiplomat2004-01-15 09:00:24
    Boy! work really messes up proofreading! by adiplomat2004-01-15 09:08:27
    I don't quite get you here ... by Slamlander2004-01-15 09:12:39
      If you are a murderer judged incapable of reform, by adiplomat2004-01-15 09:29:40
        It's right to kill a dog just because of hunger... (n/t) by delcted2004-01-15 09:33:59
          Depending on the circumstances, yes! (n/t) by DesertRat662004-01-15 09:48:30
            I can't think of any circumstances when it would by delcted2004-01-15 09:57:18
              I can think of one and it's extreme by DesertRat662004-01-15 10:10:19
                Yeah, my sailor says we'll eat the neighbors, by NOLAWitch2004-01-15 10:12:54
        I have no problem with that but, by Slamlander2004-01-15 10:19:01
          Dude, "Not Guilty" != "Innocent" by BloodyViking2004-01-15 12:18:46
            In the USA it does! by Slamlander2004-01-15 12:47:26
              That'd be nice. by subbywan2004-01-15 12:49:58
                The old one is just fine by Slamlander2004-01-15 12:50:43
                  No, we need a new one by subbywan2004-01-15 12:53:44
                    Do you really know by Slamlander2004-01-15 12:56:02
                      Yep (n/t) by subbywan2004-01-15 13:00:13
              Presumed != Proved by BloodyViking2004-01-15 12:51:27
                "Treated as if" innocent? by Slamlander2004-01-15 12:54:07
                  Where did I say "treated as if" anything? by BloodyViking2004-01-15 13:15:33
                    Defined: "Innocent" by corsicagt2006-11-19 12:55:59
                      What's your point? by BloodyViking2004-01-15 14:19:49
                Let me back up and do this right by Slamlander2004-01-15 13:09:44
                  Correction: by Naruki2004-01-15 13:20:07
                    Your last para was correct by Slamlander2004-01-15 13:32:59
                      It seems more ludicrous to me by BloodyViking2004-01-15 13:52:07
                        Yes, and why is that? by Slamlander2004-01-15 15:03:40
                          And just how did he manage that? by BloodyViking2004-01-15 15:29:51
                            at the risk of revealing my ignorance :) by gibuu2004-01-15 15:35:45
                              hehe by gibuu2004-01-15 15:40:59
                              The test is "reasonable doubt" by Slamlander2004-01-15 15:42:27
                            Yeah and we all saw Cochran get plenty of that by Slamlander2004-01-15 15:48:23
                  All of that is irrelevant to the point. by BloodyViking2004-01-15 13:41:14
            and the civil case should not be allowed by Slamlander2004-01-15 12:49:51
              Why not? by BloodyViking2004-01-15 13:07:31
                Try perjury, for one. by Slamlander2004-01-15 13:12:29
    O.K. calm down by DesertRat662004-01-15 09:52:52
    Depends on how you define "deserve", I think. by Naruki2004-01-15 09:59:03
    Self defence for society by JPaganel2004-01-15 10:35:48
  Consider the quality of life in most prison by Slacktime2004-01-15 09:09:37
    Maybe the correct punishment would be by Slacktime2004-01-15 09:25:57
      Geeky response! Silly Slacktime, you KNOW by NOLAWitch2004-01-15 09:27:30
        Oh.... really??? by Slacktime2004-01-15 09:31:54
  I heard about it on NPR this morning by NedLudd2004-01-15 09:47:36
  If he was telling the truth... by Naruki2004-01-15 09:51:03
    Oh? by DesertRat662004-01-15 10:12:57
      Don't ask me. by Naruki2004-01-15 10:33:46
        I think the claims of retardation by DesertRat662004-01-15 10:49:56
        You didn't read the entire article. by ag_wyvern2004-01-15 11:57:31
          That statement indicates no such thing. by BloodyViking2004-01-15 12:56:44
            Did a google search... by ag_wyvern2004-01-15 13:36:55
              Well That indicates that there by BloodyViking2004-01-15 13:44:21
                True enough... I took a leap... by ag_wyvern2004-01-15 14:27:16
              It looks like there was reasonable doubt by Slamlander2004-01-15 15:34:35
                You can't make that determination from the news. by BloodyViking2004-01-16 06:43:32
  As Gandalf put it rather nicely: by huitzilopochtli2004-01-15 10:44:05
    so what do you do with the people by subbywan2004-01-15 10:45:44
      How about life imprisonment with no parole? (n/t) by NOLAWitch2004-01-15 10:49:49
        That's just punishing the families of the victims by subbywan2004-01-15 10:53:21
          Hey, the criminals' families pay taxes too. by NOLAWitch2004-01-15 10:59:50
            That only works until the next election. (n/t) by Slamlander2004-01-15 11:01:06
              Yet another way that the system is broken. (n/t) by LionsPhil2004-01-15 14:16:52
          By your definition the death penalty is a worse .. by cristobal2004-01-15 11:24:39
            I've argued that as well. by subbywan2004-01-15 11:30:22
              But that sets a very dangerous precedent by cristobal2004-01-15 11:56:22
                Or the development of DNA testing tech by Slamlander2004-01-15 11:59:40
                Perhaps by subbywan2004-01-15 12:01:22
        You can't enforce that, no way by Slamlander2004-01-15 10:54:19
        It's ever so costly. by nin_man2004-01-15 10:59:07
          Why aren't those bastidges performing some by NOLAWitch2004-01-15 11:02:09
            Because you can't force a prisoner to do work by subbywan2004-01-15 11:06:01
              Make prison food vegan by tigermouse2004-01-15 11:11:03
                wanna bet how many sue for "cruel and by subbywan2004-01-15 11:13:26
                  Heck, they might sue no matter what by tigermouse2004-01-15 11:16:37
                    But you can't *force* them to work by subbywan2004-01-15 11:19:49
                      Then let them eat gruel as you suggested. by NOLAWitch2004-01-15 11:23:44
                        You're preaching to the choir here... by subbywan2004-01-15 11:26:20
                It's called 'slavery'! by Slamlander2004-01-15 11:16:28
                  Though I was being facetious, by tigermouse2004-01-15 11:26:08
                You'd have a lot more murder if I were in prison. by Naruki2004-01-15 11:57:47
                  And thus ends our prison overpopulation issue by subbywan2004-01-15 12:02:06
            Many prisons do that. by nin_man2004-01-15 11:27:50
      You detach them from society. by huitzilopochtli2004-01-15 10:57:53
        Ahhh Conventry ... by Slamlander2004-01-15 10:59:00
          My roommate in college... by Ravenlock2004-01-15 11:26:48
            *snicker* by Naruki2004-01-15 13:06:17
    I believe the Sixth Commandment properly by DesertRat662004-01-15 11:05:45
      I think you're right.. by PathOGene2004-01-15 11:32:04
        The problem is in the proof. by Slamlander2004-01-15 12:07:41
          and the proof is in the pudding. by Slacktime2004-01-15 12:12:27
            Jello Instant pudding, of course. (n/t) by NOLAWitch2004-01-15 12:29:06
              Butterscotch, pls. 8-) (n/t) by PathOGene2004-01-15 12:46:39
              New Jello Brand Instant Justice Pudding! by Naruki2004-01-15 13:07:15
            the proof of the pudding is in the tasting (nt) by gibuu2004-01-15 15:57:59
      aye by friareriner2004-01-15 21:14:19
    No no no. The line on the money means by tnglives2004-01-15 11:11:53
      According to this guy by Slacktime2006-11-19 12:55:59
        The best part is that new age and false religion by delcted2004-01-15 11:41:17
        hehe.. "Rebelious (sic) Women" by BlurOfSerenity2004-01-15 11:42:42
          What yer rebellious? by Slacktime2004-01-15 11:45:43
        What dipwad losers he and his ilk are. (n/t) by NOLAWitch2004-01-15 11:46:49
          Would you toadify him for me?? by Slacktime2004-01-15 11:48:47
            Yeah, toad would be an improvement for him. by NOLAWitch2004-01-15 11:55:10
              Sounds like you met by Slacktime2004-01-15 12:07:17
                It seems that many of the so-called Christians by NOLAWitch2004-01-15 18:04:48
        Always a capitalist somewhere, too. by tnglives2004-01-15 12:14:46
          If I remember correctly by Slacktime2004-01-15 12:17:44

 

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