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Should the First Amendment be revoke for some? by subbywan2006-11-19 12:55:59
  Nope. by zbear2004-01-13 16:36:22
    Not really valid. by Naruki2004-01-13 16:44:50
      I disagree by zbear2004-01-13 16:57:09
        Ah, but you are wrong there. by Naruki2004-01-13 17:30:08
          Um...nope by zbear2004-01-13 18:13:39
            Um... yep. by Naruki2004-01-13 18:24:00
              In the world? by zbear 2004-01-13 18:30:14
Well, no, not in the WORLD. I was speaking of the person who is incarcerated in the US and to my understanding is a US citizen. Of course, US rights are not guaranteed outside of the US.

However, in the US, we have the Declaration of Independance which states

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness

This, of course, is an impressive document but has no legal stature to my knowledge. So, although in our quest for independence we implied that these rights are for everyone, the US has only jurisdiction over its citizens. Current world events to the contrary, of course...
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                Which we already know is false by subbywan2004-01-13 18:32:11
                  I was going to make the same point. by Naruki2004-01-13 18:39:00
                    I still maintain they're not rights, by subbywan2004-01-13 18:41:40
                      I'm usually uncomfortable with that saying. by Naruki2004-01-13 18:58:51
                        Actually, I'd like to take issue with your by adiplomat2004-01-13 19:02:19
                        Well, we don't have it extending to everyone by subbywan2004-01-13 19:08:24
                    Absolutely! by zbear2004-01-13 18:48:52
                      But we've already shown that free speech *isn't* by subbywan2004-01-13 18:51:12
                        Noooo.... by zbear2004-01-13 19:00:27
                          Even before the PA by subbywan2004-01-13 19:11:37
                          Even before that grotesquely misnamed act, by adiplomat2004-01-13 19:20:37
                  Well, that's a bit twisted! by zbear2004-01-13 18:41:20
                    Yes. It's moved on by subbywan2004-01-13 18:43:28
                    What exactly are you "depriving" yourself of? by Naruki2004-01-13 18:46:26
                      Who decides? by zbear2004-01-13 18:57:09
                        Sorry, gotta go. by Naruki2004-01-13 19:00:16
                          Ciaooooo (n/t) by zbear2004-01-13 19:01:35

 

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