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jimmy carter urges compassion for Mordor	by tegan	2006-11-19 12:55:59
Well, I don't think that the situations are all	by LurkerMo	2004-01-13 09:37:31
If he had...	by Naruki	2004-01-13 10:34:53
If who had what?	by LurkerMo	2004-01-13 11:03:31
If Bush had "stooped".	by Naruki	2004-01-13 11:46:52
The end does not justify the means.	by LurkerMo	2004-01-13 11:59:19
Only if you think the ends are similar.	by Naruki	2004-01-13 12:42:37
The ends are similar.	by LurkerMo	2004-01-13 13:04:52
No, they are not.	by Naruki	2004-01-13 13:25:39
how 'bout killing is wrong? (nt)	by gibuu	2004-01-13 13:35:03
Totally different discussion.	by Naruki	2004-01-13 13:52:40
I agree	by gibuu	2004-01-13 14:42:03
I threw that out there as an example where, if you adopt that as a truth, then assassination is wrong. period. :) For me the issue is way to deep to go into here.... suffice it to say that I am torn with the idea of fighting a good war. For me there is no such thing. War is bad. Think of it like a fistfight. Maybe people can agree to fistfight by certain rules but I think if you have condescended to using your fists you might as well go all the way. You have already agreed that violence is acceptable. It kinda reminds me of a famous line, I think it was by Winston Churchill. Please correct me if I get this wrong) He offered a woman a large sum of money (say 1 million $) to have sex with him. She agreed. He then promptly changed his offer to a paltry offer (20 bucks) to which she scoffed "What do you take me for? a prostitute? He answered "We have already agreed on what you are, Madam, now we are negotiating the price" (This is also where I get torn) For while I say that if you are willing to fight you should be willing to face whatever will be thrown at you, as someone opposed to the fighting I want rules (in lieu of keeping the fight from starting). To keep them from killing each other for example (no knives...)
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If you assumed that...	by Naruki	2004-01-13 14:50:26
of course I believe war is bad	by gibuu	2004-01-13 15:33:30
You're a moral absolutist, then.	by Naruki	2004-01-13 17:21:25
actually	by gibuu	2004-01-14 09:29:05

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