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jimmy carter urges compassion for Mordor by tegan2006-11-19 12:55:59
  Actually I kinda agree with him. by Winsmith2004-01-13 09:22:57
    Oh please... by subbywan2004-01-13 09:25:39
      LOL! by Naruki2004-01-13 09:28:17
        Prove it by subbywan2004-01-13 09:30:30
          Half a billion Catholics listen to and obey by adiplomat2004-01-13 09:47:35
            Yeah, because we all know the Revoloution had by woodchip2004-01-13 09:54:53
              Power was never specified. Being listened to by adiplomat2004-01-13 10:07:30
                And yet, in the end, by subbywan2004-01-13 10:11:29
                  Yeah, 70 year old Franklin humping over the snow. by Naruki2004-01-13 10:12:46
                    But it wasn't based in the *person* was it? :) by subbywan2004-01-13 10:15:07
                      Ha ha ha! by Naruki2004-01-13 10:18:56
                        No, the US authority was not based in by subbywan2004-01-13 10:22:48
                          Wasn't talking about the US authority. by Naruki 2004-01-13 10:30:01
I was talking about Franklin's authority. He didn't use force to get it. People learned to respect him for his actions and his mind. THAT is where he got his authority.

The US didn't have the kind of authority at the start that it does today. We were very weak. In fact, if the British had been particularly bloody-minded, they could have waited till all of our foreign assistants had left us alone and re-invaded. We'd still be a colony today.

Instead, they came to accept our decision and decided it was easier to work with us than to try to re-subjugate us and have to weaken their positions elsewhere.

And it sure as heck wasn't our "force" that got the French and Germans to bail us out back then. Those bastards. ;-)
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                            So it was force then, by your argument: by subbywan2004-01-13 10:32:55
                              force never ends wars by gibuu2004-01-13 10:38:04
                                Partially true. by subbywan2004-01-13 10:42:19
                                kinda like being almost pregnant? by gibuu2004-01-13 10:47:03
                                Until someone pulls out a gun by subbywan2004-01-13 10:53:24
                                well having the courage by gibuu2004-01-13 11:00:13
                                I never said violence solves all problems by subbywan2004-01-13 11:02:56
                                No of course not by gibuu2004-01-13 11:09:28
                                sorry. I can't by subbywan2004-01-13 11:12:51

 

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