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jimmy carter urges compassion for Mordor by tegan2006-11-19 12:55:59
  Actually I kinda agree with him. by Winsmith2004-01-13 09:22:57
    Oh please... by subbywan2004-01-13 09:25:39
      ??? Why do you feel that "force" and "violence" by dire_lobo 2004-01-13 10:23:31
must be linked?

The British did NOT want to negotiate with Gandhi - They had a superior military force, and initially refused. HOWEVER... Through non-violent force (confrontation and resistance) he brought them to the negotiating table (without raising a hand, much less firing a shot).

End result - a free India. Yes, it has many of the same political problems and issues that impact other nations, but the point is, it's a nation, not a colony. They won independence the hard way - without guns. Why is it so unrealistic to think that any other group could exhibit the same courage, leadership and commitment?
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        Because violence = force by subbywan2004-01-13 10:41:04
          You don't get it, do you? by NOLAWitch2004-01-13 10:52:56
            And how is peer pressure *not* force? by subbywan2004-01-13 11:04:52
              I think that point has been by gibuu2004-01-13 11:06:11
              And, of course truth is force by tigermouse2004-01-13 11:13:52
                Precisely. Subbywan is so desperate to "win", that by adiplomat2004-01-13 11:16:06
                  That's "tautology". Sorry, but work interfered by adiplomat2004-01-13 11:24:06
                    Wasn't work, for me. by Naruki2004-01-13 11:26:06
                      Thanks for sharing by tigermouse2004-01-13 11:29:59
                        Thus indicating that Naruki fissioned? :+) by adiplomat2004-01-13 11:32:05
                          "Ya lump, ya" is what started me going that way, by adiplomat2004-01-13 11:32:50
                  Uh, no. I posted "violent/force" by subbywan2004-01-13 11:32:56
          Huh??? by dire_lobo2004-01-13 11:47:04
            Sorry about that *grin* by subbywan2004-01-13 11:54:32

 

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