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jimmy carter urges compassion for Mordor by tegan2006-11-19 12:55:59
  Actually I kinda agree with him. by Winsmith2004-01-13 09:22:57
    Oh please... by subbywan2004-01-13 09:25:39
      LOL! by Naruki2004-01-13 09:28:17
        Prove it by subbywan2004-01-13 09:30:30
          Ever heard of Gandhi? He did not have an army. (n/t) by LurkerMo2004-01-13 09:33:30
            And where is India today? by subbywan2004-01-13 09:36:11
              ?? its a different war by gibuu 2004-01-13 09:56:50
The fact that violence exists in India is not a testament to any failure of Ghandi's. It is a testament to Indians being human - nothing more.

The "war" in Ghandi's time was to "evict" without use of force btw the then all powerful British Empire from the continent. Something they were remarkably successful at. Ghandi did have an army. He had great support from most of the continent and their freedom from British oppression came at great cost.
Ghandi was not against war or being activist - he was against violence.
Violence begets violence and he saw that if they were to be successful against the British it would only be if they were to be shown the injustice of their staying - and then leave "as friends."
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                Which is exactly my point. by subbywan2004-01-13 09:58:59
                  the point is by gibuu2004-01-13 10:07:32
                  But that doesn't disprove... by BrainBug2004-01-13 10:15:14
                    Yep, we've won the debate. by Naruki2004-01-13 10:18:01
                    Ok, name another then. by woodchip2004-01-13 10:20:44
                      Well... by BrainBug2006-11-19 12:55:59
                    Amendment then *grin* by subbywan2004-01-13 10:21:53
                      Define "continuous", then. by Naruki2004-01-13 10:25:00
                        Ongoing. by subbywan2004-01-13 10:27:55
                          Horrible definition, considering. by Naruki2004-01-13 10:32:26
                      where does by gibuu2004-01-13 10:35:41
                        Good examples by subbywan2004-01-13 10:36:41
                          peace by gibuu2004-01-13 10:43:17
                            that is by gibuu2004-01-13 10:44:26
                            Peace is an ideal by subbywan2004-01-13 10:55:55
                              Are you sure about that? by gibuu2004-01-13 11:05:09
                                Fairly sure. yes. by subbywan2004-01-13 11:09:15
                                and you fight more than you do not? by gibuu2004-01-13 11:10:30
                                Myself, no. by subbywan2004-01-13 11:14:20
                                no but it does by gibuu2004-01-13 11:21:43
                                I'm a selfish person by subbywan2004-01-13 11:30:05
                          Neither does the military power by BrainBug2004-01-13 10:43:52
                          Why would that be a requirement? by tigermouse2004-01-13 10:44:28
                            Good point. I got side tracked :) (n/t) by subbywan2004-01-13 10:57:05

 

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