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The Right Reverend Bush is at it again | by Blackbyrd2 | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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I don't buy the "woman's life at risk" argument | by crash_ | 2003-11-06 05:28:35 |
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Why force a woman to undergo major surgery | by thewrongcrowd | 2003-11-06 06:00:22 |
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So it can grow up and be president someday? | by NOLAWitch | 2003-11-06 06:04:53 |
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Anti-abortion != religion, fundamentalism. | by walkon | 2003-11-06 06:53:45 |
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But religion, fundamentalism == anti-abortion. | by thewrongcrowd | 2003-11-06 07:09:43 |
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Then what's the standard? | by walkon | 2003-11-06 08:33:10 |
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For a number of reasons. | by thewrongcrowd | 2003-11-06 09:17:38 |
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But... Those reasons would only convice someone | by walkon | 2003-11-06 09:51:33 |
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That's not something you're going to find. | by thewrongcrowd | 2003-11-06 11:27:32 |
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If that standard doesn't exist, | by walkon | 2003-11-06 12:50:46 |
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They don't have a place in the public debate | by thewrongcrowd | 2003-11-06 14:23:30 |
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Are we going in circles? | by walkon | 2003-11-06 14:53:04 |
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You're doing the sidestepping. | by thewrongcrowd | 2003-11-06 15:23:40 |
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OK... | by walkon | 2003-11-06 16:17:06 |
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by thewrongcrowd |
2003-11-06 19:07:02 |
Personhood is certainly one of the relevant questions.
Slavery isn't relevant as a comparison, because its structure and implementation isn't consistent over history. It's a red herring.
Birth may be a process, but it is also a time. For example, my birth time was 9:53p.m. of such and such date.
Designating birth as the point of personhood vs. fetus places the emphasis on the natural ttansition from fetus to not-fetus, a transition similar to the artificial one undergone at age of maturity--one side of the birthday you are an infant (legally) and the next an adult. Your status is not based in anyway on your experience, growth, or accomplishments. I would suggest that although the specific time points may differ from group to group, the idea of publicly acknowledged stages of human development are indeed universal. |
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And in case *you* do. | by walkon | 2003-11-07 00:39:33 |
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Breaking this up.. | by thewrongcrowd | 2003-11-07 07:57:31 |
