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UFie Ethics 101 by Naruki2006-11-19 12:55:59
  85 by hyzenthlay2003-06-02 09:47:16
    Regarding drugs by bitflipper2003-06-02 10:03:14
      Answer by hyzenthlay2003-06-02 10:10:07
        Good answer by bitflipper2003-06-02 10:29:16
          Consider this as well. by LurkerMo2003-06-02 10:32:47
            So does college . . . by hyzenthlay2003-06-02 10:41:26
              I did say 'recreational' drugs. Drugs that by LurkerMo2003-06-02 10:50:37
                Nor exactly by hyzenthlay2003-06-02 11:00:51
                  I would question your motives for wanting by LurkerMo2003-06-02 11:04:58
                    Painful shyness for one by SaleGamine2003-06-02 12:03:45
                      This is an example of a recreational drug by LurkerMo2003-06-02 12:23:03
                        There is not deep trauma involved by SaleGamine2003-06-02 12:54:33
                          And I say shyness is not a natural state by LurkerMo2003-06-02 13:28:23
                            Bullwads. by McNutcase2003-06-02 13:33:33
                              No, it is by mirage2003-06-02 14:41:32
                                But that example shows... by Nea2003-06-02 14:47:44
                                Huh? by mirage2003-06-02 15:00:37
                                Sorry, I got confused by Nea2003-06-02 15:13:38
                                Yeah by mirage 2003-06-02 15:35:35
I would say that from the basic natural law - "follow the path of least resistance" - everything at that level is inherent. However, everything above that level is learned. ie. It is not perfectly optimized by default. We could have several levels:

1) subatomic
2) atomic
3) molecular
4) protein interaction
5) cellular level
6) tissue level
7) organ level
8) whole inter-organism interaction
9) multi-organism interaction (behavioural interaction)
10) so on.....

From 1-4, everything is inherent and follows basic laws. From 4-8, there is a level of random optimisation. From 8-10, optimisation is both random and organized (ie. the potty training ;). So, I would call levels 8-10, optimization through (random/semiorganized/organized) learning, however primitive that might be at certain points. I would not consider most of it advanced learning, which is exclusive to humans.

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There is no 'natural state' - everything is always changing. ;)
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