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The relationship between education and religion by Egaeus 2003-04-17 14:10:37
Someone asked yesterday why some people "assume" that an education would change one's fundamental belief in their religion.

First, let's talk about the word empirical. Dictionary.com says:

a. Relying on or derived from observation or experiment: empirical results that supported the hypothesis.

b. Verifiable or provable by means of observation or experiment: empirical laws.

Well, I focused on an education in science, because in science (as well as law, etc.) assertions are not assumed to be valid until there is empirical evidence that supports that assertion. If people start to apply that way of thinking to religion, then they must acknowledge that there is absolutely no empirical evidence for the existence of god, and either must live with the cognitive dissonance, or dismiss religion as just one more thing for which there is no evidence. I believe that most would do the latter.

It is not meant as an insult to anyone, just an observation of what I have seen, as well as experienced in my own life. Yes, I have changed my fundamental beliefs, and I am no longer a Christian, nor do I identify with conservatives any longer. I now find both religion and conservativism to be as distasteful as a fresh cow pie.

So what do you think?

[ Reply ]
  That's a nice theory, but proven wrong. by Naruki2003-04-17 14:13:34
    I don't know about that by Egaeus2003-04-17 14:17:27
    Not exactly proven wrong... by BloodyViking2003-04-17 14:26:33
      My education did cause me to question my faith by theymustbidiots2003-04-17 14:39:27
        Addendum by theymustbidiots2003-04-17 14:41:15
          Thanks for the help. by Naruki2003-04-17 14:42:28
            I was agreeing with you here by theymustbidiots2003-04-17 14:47:07
          Not even the staunchest atheist contends.. by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 14:45:26
            a great book on this subject by amish2003-04-17 14:57:14
              I still don't see now it necessitates a God though by BlurOfSerenity2006-11-19 12:55:59
            As I like to say... by rapido752003-04-17 19:18:07
      I'm in a catholic high school by fraek2003-04-17 15:55:07
  This is why by Illiad2003-04-17 14:19:43
    Thank you Illiad by slacktime2003-04-17 14:26:07
      Fanatic atheists by Egaeus2003-04-17 15:03:31
        I dunno, I've never had an atheist.. by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 15:06:41
          Now, surely by now you've encountered enough of by LionsPhil2003-04-17 15:09:26
            Heh heh heh by mortaine2003-04-17 15:13:07
        Well a "weak atheist" is normally called an by Spisefisken2003-04-17 15:10:22
          They're a bit different by Egaeus2006-11-19 12:55:59
            "if logic and reality disagree, reality wins" by IByte2003-04-17 15:31:35
              Yeah, quite different from the concept by Egaeus2003-04-17 15:47:21
                Oooh! An article on Easter! by EvilLionsPhil2006-11-19 12:55:59
    Damned atheist druid! (n/t) by Kickstart2003-04-17 14:32:17
      *BZZZNT* by Illiad2003-04-17 14:33:31
        yer not a Baptist, so you might as well be one! by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 14:35:36
          Damn right! by Arcanum2003-04-17 14:36:32
            From Die Fledermaus by slacktime2003-04-17 14:44:01
              Author: Johann Strauss by slacktime2003-04-17 14:45:06
            With kinky vampire bisexual goth babes? by LionsPhil2003-04-17 15:07:43
              n/t I could go for that... by DireEyez2003-04-17 20:21:45
          woohaa - let the irrationality commence! :) (n/t) by themadkansan2003-04-17 14:36:37
          Bwahahahaha!!! by Illiad2003-04-17 14:39:32
            10...9...8... by LionsPhil2003-04-17 15:05:15
              I've done it before :) by Nea2003-04-17 15:24:05
          We're going to by skadi2003-04-17 14:41:22
            I love it. by Vetitice2003-04-17 14:43:50
              *ba-dum-CH!* (n/t) by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 14:46:58
                Thankyou by Vetitice2003-04-17 16:05:38
          On the bright (incandescent) side by Vetitice2003-04-17 14:43:11
          all people are going to hell... by defdood2003-04-17 14:52:51
            Darnit. You beat me to it. by LionsPhil2003-04-17 15:03:58
              I also posted it... by defdood2003-04-17 15:05:36
          Everyone is going to there, apparently. by LionsPhil2003-04-17 15:02:49
        Oh how very much I want to call you racist names by Kickstart2003-04-17 16:30:50
    Heh. Most people don't know you, then. by Naruki2003-04-17 14:44:05
      Oh YEAH?!?! Well... by Illiad2003-04-17 14:45:23
        Wow, that was enlightening... by slacktime2003-04-17 14:46:52
        uhm.... by defdood2003-04-17 14:59:18
          Miranda: "You're stuuuuupid." by LionsPhil2003-04-17 15:00:38
            heh... by defdood2003-04-17 15:04:33
    Weak Atheist in my case by Egaeus2006-11-19 12:55:59
  Well, I for one must disagree with you... by Llyr2003-04-17 14:47:38
    Because God would be an even more complex thing by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 14:49:46
      ack! "thaN this universe" not "thaT this universe" (n/t) by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 14:50:25
      the scary question is... by defdood2003-04-17 15:02:22
        And what if YOU die, and realize that.. by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 15:05:28
          Well, if that happens... by defdood2003-04-17 15:08:53
            So all it takes to get to Heaven is fear of Hell? by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 15:13:27
              Never heard of "putting the fear of God" into by LionsPhil2003-04-17 15:15:57
                Yeah, but I always assumed that to be Christian... by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 15:17:09
                Yeah, but by Egaeus2003-04-17 15:17:37
              I never said... by defdood2003-04-17 15:23:09
                I don't think fear is an argument for believing. by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 15:26:32
                  Especially if those consequences aren't readily by NOLAWitch2003-04-17 16:37:06
                    Unless you're Ebeneezer Scrooge, by LionsPhil2003-04-17 16:41:16
                Well how can people be afraid of hell by Spisefisken2003-04-17 15:27:03
                Doesn't work too well by Egaeus2003-04-17 15:27:44
                  Is that where those bruises came from? by Nea2003-04-17 15:38:23
                    Bad evil pixies! Bad! by EvilLionsPhil2003-04-17 15:41:02
                      Heat Beer? ew. Why would anyone want to do that? (n/t) by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 15:42:12
                        Well if it was frozen by Spisefisken2003-04-17 15:44:36
                        I'm evil, silly. Put two and two together. (n/t) by EvilLionsPhil2003-04-17 15:56:45
                      They must be deaf pixies by Nea2003-04-17 15:58:59
                        Well, I probably shouldn't have made them listen by EvilLionsPhil2003-04-17 16:01:09
                You know, you're supporting an idea that I read by Arcanum2003-04-17 19:27:12
          Death is merely a reboot. by NOLAWitch2003-04-17 16:35:06
        Any God who wasn't a complete bastage by BloodyViking2003-04-17 15:06:34
          Well, in Christian mythology by Egaeus2003-04-17 15:12:13
            Does God even HAVE nuts? by LionsPhil2003-04-17 15:14:26
              Well, it would be more of a symbolic gesture by Egaeus2003-04-17 15:20:10
                Free will is an illusion. by LionsPhil2003-04-17 15:24:54
                  Yeah, right by Egaeus2003-04-17 16:35:44
        Limbo? by Egaeus2006-11-19 12:55:59
        That's not a scary question by mortaine2003-04-17 15:11:59
          Erm... by Illiad2003-04-17 19:31:54
            I was wondering by Egaeus2003-04-17 20:17:26
        Nope, no crow for me. by Arcanum2003-04-17 19:18:45
      heh, no one ever tries to answer this point. (n/t) by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 16:32:51
      Physics explains everything... by rapido752003-04-17 19:49:16
        Actually, no it doesn't. by Illiad2003-04-17 19:59:48
          IMO, It explains enough... by rapido752003-04-18 00:27:13
        No, it doesn't. by Arcanum2003-04-17 20:02:14
      God is unexplainable... by Illiad2003-04-17 20:07:03
        Gaaah! by Egaeus2003-04-17 20:12:37
          Yup! :) by Arcanum2003-04-17 20:15:34
          Heck no... by Illiad2003-04-17 20:16:41
            Possibly. by Arcanum2003-04-17 20:19:22
            Well, you can't.... by Egaeus2003-04-17 20:23:55
              Correct by Illiad2003-04-17 20:28:24
        So why not just simply say... by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 20:25:14
          Sure... by Illiad2003-04-17 20:29:02
    That's not empirical evidence. by Arcanum2003-04-17 14:53:55
      Beat me to it by Egaeus2003-04-17 14:55:56
    Did I say god doesn't exist? by Egaeus2003-04-17 15:44:30
    Look at the human eye by migiizis2003-04-17 15:55:17
      the eye is kinda neat in how it compensates... by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 16:00:57
        I know by migiizis2003-04-17 16:03:18
          maybe it's just that Octopi are God's Chosen, by BlurOfSerenity2003-04-17 16:04:21
            It's probably dolphins. by LionsPhil2003-04-17 16:09:54
              Well, they are... by rapido752003-04-17 19:41:08
            Kinda lends credence to the Cthulhu thing no? by migiizis2003-04-17 16:11:23
        There's a website somewhere by LionsPhil2003-04-17 16:05:41
      But is that a mistake? (n/t) by Llyr2003-04-17 17:21:01
      Exactly.. by rapido752003-04-17 19:44:45
    Yes, I can. It's physics and evolution by rapido752003-04-17 19:48:40
  Hmm, I think I scared everyone away from this TLP by LionsPhil2003-04-17 19:17:11

 

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