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The flaw in the "wait for UN approval" argument. by slayer 2003-03-18 01:02:39
I've seen alot of people say that the US can't go to war without UN approval. The truth is that the UN will never, ever declare Iraq in violation. Would you argue that a man is innocent of murder because the law requires his brother to be on the jury and that brother refuses to vote guilty? The same situation is currently true with France serving as the brother.

Even after the UN weapon inspectors found illegal stockpiles in '94, France not only refused to declare a material breech, but actually tried to get the sanctions lifted. After Saddam refused to allow inspectors back in, France again pushed to end sanctions. France even opposed the formation of UNMOVIC (the current inspection regime) in '99. France has proven time and time again that they will not hold Iraq accountable, even when the "smoking gun" was discovered in '94. As for being peaceloving humanitarians, France blocked a resolution condemning attacks on Kurds in '96.

So why should we depend on a jury which is hamstringed by a single unchanging vote? That is no jury and their decision holds no justice.
[ Reply ]
  you are boring me (n/t) by Old Stoneface2003-03-18 01:06:21
    Sorry I'll try to leave out the facts from now on. by slayer2003-03-18 01:08:32
  Erm... by Illiad2003-03-18 01:08:37
    I hate you.... by slayer2003-03-18 01:13:47
      Oh give me a break by LooseChanj2003-03-18 01:18:16
      And...? by Illiad2003-03-18 01:19:35
        Hmmm, my integrity is at stake then? by slayer2003-03-18 01:23:37
          Not at stake... by Illiad2003-03-18 01:28:29
            *drops any and all stances on Iraq* (n/t) by slayer2003-03-18 01:30:43
              Liar :P (n/t) by NuclearWinter2003-03-18 03:14:14
            What is this referring too??? by chatgris2003-03-18 03:04:49
              There's nothing inherently wrong with the post. by Naruki2003-03-18 04:28:59
                You're Saddam Hussein? (n/t) by turf19692003-03-18 05:37:06
                  He he he. by Naruki2003-03-18 14:35:57
                  LOL!! so true (n/t) by chatgris2003-03-18 15:39:16
  How shall I put this? by fudje2003-03-18 01:09:16
  boring indeed ... (n/t) by anerki2003-03-18 01:09:20
  Actually.. by NuclearWinter2003-03-18 01:11:30
    I hope we look like mean evil people. by slayer2003-03-18 01:17:23
      Well said. by waveydavey2003-03-18 01:21:59
        My spelling has always been awful. Sorry (n/t) by slayer2003-03-18 01:24:20
      Don't give up on humanity so easily. by skeptic2003-03-18 01:26:09
        This is very true by jedidiahstott2003-03-18 02:46:59
          I don't think what you're saying here is fair... by chatgris2003-03-18 03:08:43
            It is a matter of respect for the law by jedidiahstott2003-03-18 03:33:00
              I should have added "UK and Australia also" by jedidiahstott2003-03-18 03:35:03
                You should have added some carriage returns. by Naruki2003-03-18 04:33:29
              With that in mind by buddha2003-03-18 08:26:05
                The US is establishing a dangerous precedent by LurkerMo2003-03-18 10:53:17
                  Setting a precident? by Arcanum2003-03-18 11:48:18
                    The precedent of a country being able to by LurkerMo2003-03-18 12:41:00
                      Not really by slacktime2003-03-18 12:51:42
                        I mentioned Iraq and Kuwait as an example by LurkerMo2003-03-18 13:09:58
                          50 years of tradiition? by slacktime2003-03-18 13:23:51
                            Understand LurkerMo by slacktime2003-03-18 14:14:56
                              I believe that the danger of what the US is doing by LurkerMo2003-03-18 15:23:42
                                Please, look at history for a second. by chatgris2003-03-18 15:38:24
                                I'm glad that you have such faith in the benevo- by LurkerMo2003-03-18 16:14:34
                            The fact that no UN sanction existed is by LurkerMo2003-03-18 15:14:07
                            Self defence is different from attack. by Vetitice2003-03-18 16:40:28
      Not to mention profit. by SparkyR2003-03-18 04:48:29
        Speaking of profit ... by chuckab2003-03-18 06:34:50
          Fact: the stock market went up almost 300 points by NOLAWitch2003-03-18 07:27:24
    The enitre point, apparently, by fudje2003-03-18 01:17:50
    New Amerikan Imperialism by slamlander2003-03-18 02:28:46
  No by LooseChanj2003-03-18 01:15:59
    Yup. Saddam could show up in a US base by LionsPhil2003-03-18 02:27:27
  The flaw in your argument by skeptic2003-03-18 01:30:54
  I have dropped the above argument. by slayer2003-03-18 01:33:00
  Why are you bleating? by breezeblock2003-03-18 01:39:59
    He is just trolling again by SaleGamine2003-03-18 01:47:06
  USA International politics by Nuitari2003-03-18 01:49:15
    Of course the US replaced the gov'ts they disliked by geminidomino22003-03-18 01:53:38
      As Henry Kissinger said: by ipous2003-03-18 02:04:24
      Song of the Day by gerddie2003-03-18 02:12:53
  The way I look at it by Venix2006-11-19 12:55:59
    Heh, by LionsPhil2003-03-18 02:32:03
      Now this is a very contructive idea! by psc2003-03-18 02:37:26
    I am currently researching for a response.. by breezeblock2006-11-19 12:55:59
  *bang bang bang scribble scribble THUD!* by McNutcase2003-03-18 02:00:26
    *tiptoes to the sign in the dead of night* by geminidomino22003-03-18 02:03:26
      Weasels eat Trolls? by fore_deck2003-03-18 02:47:52
  Some history... by schumi2003-03-18 02:24:55
    No fair! by Naruki2003-03-18 04:31:01
      Meanie? by SparkyR2003-03-18 04:52:23
        Naruki' is not a meanie by slacktime2003-03-18 07:33:11
          Not plain ignorance by SaleGamine2003-03-18 07:40:07
            Well it is still just hir perception of it by slacktime2003-03-18 07:48:22
              Busted mine as well once or twice by SaleGamine2003-03-18 07:51:42
                All in fun... by SparkyR2003-03-18 10:03:18
  Are people still saying that? Why? by Naruki2003-03-18 04:06:05

 

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