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Why would God create Hell? by Naruki2003-02-27 10:47:32
  Do you want an honest answer? by Buffy_Fett2003-02-27 10:58:05
    Hey Buffy by Egaeus2006-11-19 12:55:59
      I wasn't following that debate today by Buffy_Fett2003-02-27 11:36:15
        How do you know it hurts Him? by Naruki2003-02-27 11:42:57
          An example by Buffy_Fett2003-02-27 11:49:24
            I cannot see a loving God by Egaeus2003-02-27 11:51:27
              If we were all meant to go to Heaven by Buffy_Fett2003-02-27 11:53:48
                Omniscience and omnipotence by Egaeus2003-02-27 11:56:50
                  Matter of perspective by Buffy_Fett2003-02-27 12:23:51
                    But my choice was predetermined by Egaeus2003-02-27 12:37:28
                      But do you know what the choices are? by Buffy_Fett2003-02-27 12:42:34
                        Doesn't matter by Egaeus2003-02-27 12:56:36
                          Your choices weren't made by God. by YakkoWarner2003-02-27 13:09:53
                            By creating the universe by Egaeus2003-02-27 13:20:10
                              Not at all. by YakkoWarner2003-02-27 13:25:37
                                BIG difference: by randomman2003-02-27 13:31:43
                                I think I see the flaw in your arguments. by YakkoWarner2003-02-27 13:49:53
                                I see by randomman2003-02-27 14:12:48
                                Well, it makes sense, for one thing. by YakkoWarner2003-02-27 14:28:54
                                Well... by randomman 2003-02-27 14:59:22
I still fell as I have previously expounded, since God is omniscient, God would be aware of all facts. Even if there are undetermined factors involved, God would be aware of them (hence rendering them determined for God). This would mean that God would be aware of what "spiritual DNA" would be provided and what that would entail. Any way you slice it, I see God being aware in such a fashion that God determines everything by the choices made as part of the creative act. This only makes us robots if God doesn't do something to limit God's fore-knowledge of our existence.

Basically, how do you envision the creation process such that God's omniscience doesn't create a problem for free will?

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                                I don't see that it does. by YakkoWarner2003-02-27 15:35:41
                                I'm evidently not conveying what I mean well by randomman2003-02-27 17:30:04

 

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