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Front Door Vistors | by JedaiBesk | 2003-02-27 05:42:17 |
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Which is why you should always speak properly. | by pecosdave | 2003-02-27 05:44:53 |
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slight correction | by plblark | 2003-02-27 06:43:12 |
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Calling NOLAWitch... | by Naruki | 2003-02-27 06:59:20 |
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It just bugs me a little is all... | by plblark | 2003-02-27 07:05:14 |
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At a guess, I'd say the "Jesus Christ" part. ;-P | by Naruki | 2003-02-27 07:13:20 |
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heh! | by plblark | 2003-02-27 07:34:23 |
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I'd have to disagree on that first sentence | by Egaeus | 2003-02-27 08:08:38 |
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well, yes, if it WERE the word of god directly | by plblark | 2003-02-27 08:22:06 |
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So then | by Egaeus | 2003-02-27 08:34:34 |
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I think His rules are plain enough | by slacktime | 2003-02-27 08:57:53 |
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Wait a minute | by Egaeus | 2003-02-27 09:05:56 |
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Oh I don't disagree | by slacktime | 2003-02-27 09:14:51 |
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I agree | by Egaeus | 2003-02-27 09:31:19 |
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Maybe this will help | by slacktime | 2003-02-27 10:00:50 |
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Not quite adequate | by Egaeus | 2003-02-27 10:14:24 |
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Maybe there is more to you | by slacktime | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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But we keep coming to the question | by Egaeus | 2003-02-27 10:47:53 |
| so knowledge removes freedom? |
by slacktime |
2003-02-27 10:58:10 |
if I know that Pres Bush is going to attack Iraq, that takes away his freedom to choose not to?
if I send my son away to college, knowing he has a propensity to party, I take away his ability to study and force him to party?
if I could create the proverbial time machine knowing what I do about world war II and go back to 1942, I somehow force Japan to bomb the U.S?
if God sits in a dimensional nexus that allows him to see the past present and future before him like we can see spacial dimensions, he somehow takes away your agency because of his knowledge of the future?
I don't see that he has taken away your right to choose at all, do what you will of your life, you can't blame it on God. |
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That's the crux of the longtime debate | by Nea | 2003-02-27 11:22:56 |
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And we aren't likely going to solve it today? | by slacktime | 2003-02-27 11:32:28 |
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The latter option doesn't fly. | by Arcanum | 2003-02-27 11:44:34 |
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weakened omniscience | by Egaeus | 2003-02-27 11:54:37 |
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Yes. So is weakened omnipotence. :) | by Arcanum | 2003-02-27 11:56:04 |
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Turn it around | by Ston | 2003-02-27 12:28:05 |
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So he knows some things? | by Egaeus | 2003-02-27 12:32:57 |
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No | by Ston | 2003-02-27 12:54:29 |
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But if he knows the actions we will take | by Egaeus | 2003-02-27 12:58:37 |
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Because you're not getting it. | by YakkoWarner | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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It didn't (n/t) | by Egaeus | 2003-02-27 13:25:26 |
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Nope, still doesn't work. | by Arcanum | 2003-02-27 14:42:32 |
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When we're talking about God, absolutely | by Egaeus | 2003-02-27 11:34:35 |