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North Korea: a role model for the world? by slayer 2003-01-13 10:35:27
I have a confession to make: I have misjudged North Korea. In the past I wondered outloud if they were insane, but I've come to realize it is not matter of sanity, but rather a matter of dignity.

NK is the anti-Europe. Where Europe lost its will and settled for being America's bitch, NK is standing up for its rights. This isn't Iraq; NK never gave up its claim sovereignty to obtain peace as Iraq did. NK has formally withdrawn from its international treaties so it cannot be called in violation of them.

NK is closer to America than any of us are willing to admit. Just like us, they are fiercely independent. Just like us, they refuse to allow others to shape their destiny. And just like us over two hundred years ago, they are willing to shed their blood in a seemingly hopeless war simply for the sake of principle.

NK is correct when it says any trade embargo is a violation of its sovereignty, and it correct to assert its right to wage war over such a violation. We constantly discuss in this forum how Europeans just seem to sit around whining about the US instead of standing up and breaking themselves of their dependence on us. Here is a country actually doing the latter.

It is truly a pity that one of the few countries with pride and strength of will so close to our own should have to come into conflict with us. Perhaps it is simply the case that this planet is not big enough for two such nations.


Call it what you will, this is not a troll.
[ Reply ]
  Nope, not a troll. by LionsPhil2003-01-13 10:39:02
    True, it's just that... by themadkansan2003-01-13 10:55:35
  so go live there by rottweiler2003-01-13 10:39:46
    But I want to revel is my country's pride. by slayer2003-01-13 10:52:54
      I have a different interpretation... by rottweiler2003-01-13 11:11:36
        Heehee...I see "stubborn", "pig-headed" ;) (n/t) by LionsPhil2003-01-13 11:15:36
        Then the Founding Fathers by slayer2003-01-13 11:24:38
          Probably. They WERE human. (n/t) by LionsPhil2003-01-13 11:26:42
          but relatively mild ones... by rottweiler2003-01-13 11:32:08
  Turkey by ozanbaba2003-01-13 10:39:59
    Really? by slayer2003-01-13 10:42:35
      remain me by ozanbaba2003-01-13 10:59:02
        I'm going to make a helpful correction by Nea2003-01-13 11:07:28
          god bless you ! (n/t) by ozanbaba2003-01-13 11:08:49
  Can I call it irony then? by Route2003-01-13 10:51:34
    Why can't I be serious? by slayer2003-01-13 10:56:56
      Don't think that it's so much 'their'... by themadkansan2003-01-13 11:00:08
        Hee hee hee by hyzenthlay2003-01-13 11:09:48
          Oh, don't EVEN get me started about him... by themadkansan2003-01-13 11:11:31
      No I don't by Route2003-01-13 11:00:25
  Question by hyzenthlay2003-01-13 10:53:06
    A sovereign nation by slayer2003-01-13 11:00:05
      The world is not a vacuum by hyzenthlay2003-01-13 11:06:35
        See this is what I mean by slayer2003-01-13 11:13:31
          I agree by hyzenthlay2003-01-13 11:16:11
          Securing trade through force by Taolie2003-01-13 11:26:01
            I disagree. by slayer2003-01-13 11:33:26
              Check the definition by Taolie2006-11-19 12:55:59
            I think there is a difference by MikeCDN2003-01-13 11:39:14
              I think we should beat slayer up anyway. by Naruki2003-01-13 11:42:54
                Well yeah, by MikeCDN2003-01-13 11:43:48
                Sounds good by rottweiler2003-01-13 11:43:51
                Excuse me, I have to go purchase some firearms :) (n/t) by slayer2003-01-13 12:00:01
                  too late... by rottweiler2003-01-13 12:01:29
                  *juggles tactical nuke* by LionsPhil2003-01-13 12:02:15
          War to protect one's nation by LurkerMo2003-01-13 11:49:36
            I dunno, you might have swayed me... by rottweiler2003-01-13 11:51:19
            It is not entirely different. by slayer2003-01-13 11:57:10
              Of course there is damage. by LurkerMo2003-01-13 12:08:04
                No. by slayer2003-01-13 12:10:32
                  The international community by LurkerMo2003-01-13 12:17:26
                    Please go look up anarchy. by Naruki2003-01-13 12:37:07
                      My definition of anarchy by LurkerMo2003-01-13 13:08:53
                        If "everybody" did "this"? by Naruki2003-01-13 13:27:43
                          I was trying to convey why I used by LurkerMo2003-01-13 13:37:50
                            By definition, yes. by Naruki2003-01-13 13:48:54
                              An overinflated ego. Probably from that gun. by LionsPhil2003-01-13 13:53:20
                              Damn. Here I thought I was getting by LurkerMo2003-01-13 14:23:57
                  Notice I didn't argue this point. by Naruki2003-01-13 12:17:51
                    The fact remains by LurkerMo2003-01-13 12:31:35
                      No, that's not even close to being true. by Naruki2003-01-13 12:35:56
                        It is close enough for me. by LurkerMo2003-01-13 12:53:59
                          Anarchy is no the refusal by slayer2003-01-13 12:58:51
                          Dictionary help by Taolie2003-01-13 12:59:53
                            Luser mode wins again! by LionsPhil2003-01-13 13:02:21
      That is the biggest load of HOOEY by Route2003-01-13 11:08:45
        I am trying to be logically consistent. by slayer2003-01-13 11:20:39
      Depends on the goods by aquacooler2003-01-13 13:16:17
  Well by BadassITgod2003-01-13 10:56:30
    again freedom thing by ozanbaba2003-01-13 11:00:32
      That is correct. by LurkerMo2003-01-13 12:38:23
        True. by Naruki2003-01-13 13:16:04
        good one by ozanbaba2003-01-13 13:30:34
    Good for you! by Naruki2003-01-13 12:32:04
  NK is China's bitch by rogueneuron2003-01-13 11:00:10
  Food for thought by migiizis2006-11-19 12:55:59
    Construction was slow on the LWRs. by Route2003-01-13 11:13:29
      The test missile by migiizis2003-01-13 11:19:04
        Space program? That's rich. by Route2003-01-13 19:48:25
      accidental sorta-double post (n/t) by Route2003-01-13 19:49:17
    Construction was slow on the LWRs. by Route2003-01-13 11:15:16
    Do you know what the cause of the by LurkerMo2003-01-13 12:01:51
      The US promised construction of the plants by migiizis2003-01-13 12:03:26
    oddly, it was a misstatement that caused the war by plblark2003-01-13 12:13:45
    Some of Shrub's finest work. by Naruki2003-01-13 12:30:27
  LionsPhil's Tangent Of The Thread by LionsPhil2003-01-13 11:26:07
    Absolutely nothing. by slayer2003-01-13 11:29:13
      Them's fighting words! by LionsPhil2003-01-13 11:31:59
        You LIKE the Shrub, don'tcha? :) by themadkansan2003-01-13 11:35:27
          Ooh, yeah. by LionsPhil2003-01-13 11:36:52
            OK - HazMat suit... by themadkansan2003-01-13 11:38:49
        Somebody's been hanging out in the EU too long :) (n/t) by slayer2003-01-13 11:36:53
          I think we should form a commitee to validate that (n/t) by LionsPhil2003-01-13 11:38:41
            Just make sure the committee isn't elected. by taIon2003-01-13 11:45:47
    Well... by themadkansan2003-01-13 11:30:57
      "Oi! No!" doesn't *necessarily* mean force. by LionsPhil2003-01-13 11:33:45
        Godwin kills a tangent (n/t) by plblark2003-01-13 12:03:16
          Damn hir hide! ;D (n/t) by LionsPhil2003-01-13 12:07:25
            well, there was an accomplice ;-) (n/t) by plblark2003-01-13 12:10:26
    Other than hell hosting the winter olympics? by taIon2003-01-13 11:33:46
      Hmm...do you think Satan can skate? (n/t) by LionsPhil2003-01-13 11:35:05
        Like the devil himself. (n/t) by taIon2003-01-13 11:37:29
  WARNING by Nea2003-01-13 11:43:55
    Sorry, didn't mean to violate the rules. (n/t) by slayer2003-01-13 11:46:39
    Jeez, what a by Egaeus2003-01-13 14:39:07
      Glad to see you around occasionally again by Nea2003-01-13 15:50:07
        Hmmmm by Egaeus2003-01-14 05:10:47
  What about them threatening other nation's by Naruki2003-01-13 11:47:59
    Oh no, certainly not. by slayer2003-01-13 11:52:01
      that and the lack of a standing army ;-) (n/t) by plblark2003-01-13 12:01:33
        Is Japan still restricted by slayer2003-01-13 12:05:54
          why? they have practically bought our by plblark2003-01-13 12:09:49
  we're all doomed anyway... let's start the party by rottweiler2006-11-19 12:55:59
    Note the complete lack of timescale given... (n/t) by LionsPhil2003-01-13 12:50:06
      well, if you're going to be picky about it... by rottweiler2003-01-13 12:51:40
    Now this is what I'm talking about. by slayer2003-01-13 12:52:20
      What people? Where? by LionsPhil2003-01-13 12:56:56
        I loved that quarter I took environmental health:) by slayer2003-01-13 13:01:09
          Oh, you seem to be an expert on feeling superior=) (n/t) by LionsPhil2003-01-13 13:03:05

 

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