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Firearms Q: by Illiad 2002-10-14 13:00:42

What is, in your opinion, the best all-around infantry weapon for use in an urban conflict, taking the cost:effectiveness ratio into account?

[ Reply ]
  m16 by sketcher2002-10-14 13:04:55
    oops, m4 by sketcher2002-10-14 13:16:56
      if you are going for a high coolness factor by sketcher2002-10-14 13:25:50
    brought to you by Matel... and it rusts by rottweiler2002-10-14 13:27:07
      ummm nope and nope by desertrat662002-10-14 13:30:53
        Hadn't heard of much corrosion if cleaned readily. (n/t) by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:05:57
          the M16, yes? by mcnutcase2006-11-19 12:55:59
  Considering emigrating south? :-) (n/t) by kahuana2002-10-14 13:05:00
  readily available civilian or military? by PecosDave2002-10-14 13:05:13
  Cluster bombs... by Glytch782002-10-14 13:05:22
  I hear the Colt M4 Commando is quite popular. by Arcanum2002-10-14 13:06:12
  This is hypothetical, I hope? by BlurOfSerenity2002-10-14 13:09:21
    And step three feet to the right... by Naruki2002-10-14 13:11:01
  Are we arming Pitr's minions for a coup d'etat? by otterr2002-10-14 13:13:31
  <Deleted><Deleted>2002-10-14 13:13:31
    oops. ignore my double-clicky. (n/t) by otterr2002-10-14 13:14:52
    Moderated: double post (n/t) by Nea2002-10-14 13:36:10
  something that can by theymustbidiots2002-10-14 13:14:08
  Depends on what you have available by desertrat662002-10-14 13:15:06
  Look at SWAT teams by toxin2002-10-14 13:18:04
    don't forget the ammo! by otterr2002-10-14 13:23:53
      well, i think that... by sketcher2002-10-14 13:28:41
        no, you wonder why there is a snarling canadian by CrazySteve2002-10-14 13:30:18
          lol, where is his axe and pancakes? by sketcher2002-10-14 13:31:40
            Snarling Canadian? You'd be wondering "Am I asleep by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:44:02
  An urban conflict? H&K MP5. by SouthpawPL2006-11-19 12:55:59
    and R6/RS players everywhere! (n/t) by otterr2002-10-14 13:27:34
  There's not a single problem... by nin_man2002-10-14 13:28:17
    fire good... fire so so good by sketcher2002-10-14 13:30:08
      because that would evoprate by Glytch782002-10-14 13:34:48
  oops forgot the Mini-14 by desertrat662002-10-14 13:28:50
  MP5 very accurate....relatively cheap by trk1822002-10-14 13:29:28
  A riot shield and Kevlar. by Sehmket2002-10-14 13:30:07
  UZI & AK-47, if you're buyin: an MP5! by AdMan2002-10-14 13:31:22
    stay away from the uzi by sketcher2002-10-14 13:35:03
    AK 47 and 7.62 NATO!!!! by desertrat662002-10-14 13:35:43
      You win a prize! by AdMan2002-10-14 13:43:19
      I Read Somewhere by rwrannells2002-10-14 13:51:25
        nope n/t by desertrat662002-10-14 13:55:13
    don't go for an Uzi by mcnutcase2002-10-14 14:04:29
  redeemer by pi boy2002-10-14 13:33:01
    sorry, ut not uk (n/t) by pi boy2002-10-14 13:33:23
    down boy! by CrazySteve2002-10-14 13:33:32
      I'm not a dog.. by pi boy2002-10-14 13:34:54
      nooooo, not that hunk o junk by sketcher2002-10-14 13:36:32
        either way it's fun (n/t) by pi boy2002-10-14 13:39:47
  I like the H&K GMG... by Bellator2006-11-19 12:55:59
    Not exactly an infantry wep. It weighs 29kg! by SouthpawPL2002-10-14 13:43:17
      Ever hear of catching a ride? by Bellator2002-10-14 13:48:53
        but bear in mind... by mcnutcase2002-10-14 14:27:04
  This is SCARY by toxin2002-10-14 13:41:59
    but guns is fun by sketcher2002-10-14 13:43:02
    then avoid my diary... by mcnutcase2002-10-14 13:47:28
      a kama set and an mp5 by sketcher2002-10-14 13:50:10
      Scratched off my list by toxin2002-10-14 14:01:09
    Nah, we don't argue about guns much. by Arcanum2002-10-14 13:51:03
  either an MP5 or a good Colt M4 Carbine by DaNutBall2002-10-14 13:42:59
  for urban conflict? by mcnutcase2002-10-14 13:43:11
    i'd go with an under the barrel shotgun by sketcher2002-10-14 13:46:39
      Are you nuts?! by Illiad2002-10-14 13:48:51
        i might be by sketcher2002-10-14 13:53:14
          kicking down a door != safe by mcnutcase2002-10-14 13:56:17
          On my squad! by Illiad2006-11-19 12:55:59
            i would love to be by sketcher2002-10-14 15:02:00
              And we'd be pleased to have you by Illiad2002-10-14 15:04:28
                And I can guarantee that I'll be one of the first by DireEyez2002-10-14 15:28:57
                  not a good plan... by mcnutcase2002-10-14 15:31:13
                    Yeah, I haven't played it since. I've got to let by DireEyez2002-10-14 15:33:01
                  DireEyez... by Illiad2002-10-14 15:53:37
                    OK, who takes point 30 seconds later as my cold by DireEyez2002-10-14 16:41:32
                      the #2 man! by Illiad2002-10-14 17:01:20
                        So you'll be the first to be taken out by the by DireEyez2002-10-14 18:01:21
      point by mcnutcase2002-10-14 13:51:20
        SD's only necessary for stealth anyway. (n/t) by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:02:41
          indeed by mcnutcase2002-10-14 14:06:40
            Urban ops require SMG's too, not M16/4 or AK47s (n/t) by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:11:13
              two words: by mcnutcase2002-10-14 14:12:19
                Still safer to stick with the 9mm and 10mm rounds. (n/t) by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:15:13
                  tell that to all these... by mcnutcase2002-10-14 14:17:06
                    I wouldn't mind a Desert Eagle .50SAE...though I'm by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:21:22
                      yup by mcnutcase2002-10-14 14:24:58
                        Same here...much rather the 3 round burst than by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:30:09
  Thinking of moving to Texas, are you? (n/t) by nin_man2002-10-14 13:58:49
  Varies on Ammo type. Mainly MP5 for urban ops with by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:01:13
    Ammo choice by desertrat662002-10-14 14:28:58
      True, you can always make a round that limits by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:33:57
        You'll notice by desertrat662002-10-14 20:35:54
  depends on the application by stig_mata2002-10-14 14:03:53
  M16 Replacements by rwrannells2002-10-14 14:16:39
    might you be referring to... by mcnutcase2006-11-19 12:55:59
      Possibly by rwrannells2002-10-14 14:30:07
    OICW by Arcanum2002-10-14 14:20:32
      Been playing too much SoF II eh? ;-) (n/t) by DaNutBall2002-10-14 14:22:00
        Nope, haven't actually played it. by Arcanum2002-10-14 14:22:58
          Yeah it's in that game too by DaNutBall2002-10-14 14:30:48
  Why does it scare me... by krupa2002-10-14 14:22:17
    Good question, why should it scare you? Weaponry by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:23:40
      Erm.. "Is only dangerous" came out wrong...what by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:27:48
        never mind my post then. by krupa2002-10-14 14:29:17
          Yes...but when handled properly with the right by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:31:30
          that is why by mcnutcase2002-10-14 14:32:28
            Word To Live By by rwrannells2002-10-14 14:35:11
              quite by mcnutcase2002-10-14 14:37:42
                Nor Do Clay Pidgeons by rwrannells2002-10-14 14:39:12
                But you have every intention of killing by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:39:40
                  Yep. by Naruki2002-10-14 14:42:13
                    Well, I think that only in your case ;> (n/t) by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:45:38
                      But not to teach your kids. by Naruki2002-10-14 14:50:18
                        No...not at all...not even the thought. (n/t) by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:55:29
                          Did you miss that link a few days ago? by Naruki2002-10-14 15:02:16
                            Probably, i'm cutting back on the time I spend by DireEyez2002-10-14 15:27:09
            Word to Yo Mama! by Naruki2002-10-14 14:38:30
            that is why by krupa2002-10-14 14:38:43
      Huh? by krupa2002-10-14 14:28:07
        i have successfully never hurt a living thing by sketcher2002-10-14 14:31:03
          don't get me wrong... by krupa2002-10-14 14:40:55
      Besides that by Arcanum2002-10-14 14:28:09
        yup by mcnutcase2002-10-14 14:29:50
          thats why i have an entire folder for weaponry by sketcher2002-10-14 14:37:08
            I like! by mcnutcase2002-10-14 14:42:36
            I was undecided the first day I'd heard about by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:47:24
              well theres also the whole thing about... by sketcher2002-10-14 14:50:36
                Depends on the size of the blast and the distance by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:56:36
  BTW! by Illiad2006-11-19 12:55:59
    Is that 8pm EDT? PDT? UTC? by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:35:29
      My bad...PDT. by Illiad2002-10-14 14:37:10
        And made my post there look foolish. (n/t) by DireEyez2002-10-14 14:40:13
  So exactly how do we define cost effective by webishop2002-10-14 15:19:41
  Fire. by Kickstart2004-02-28 17:09:28

 

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