| The DOTD (Debate of the Day) |
by slayer |
2002-08-26 04:43:33 |
Resolved: All forms of minimum age requirements dictated by law (age of consent statutes, drinking ages, etc.) should be dissolved.
The government does not have the right to say when an individual becomes autonomous and capable of consent or informed opinion. The minor may indeed know what s/he wants, and the fact that the desire potentially destructive does not negate the validity of the desire. Indeed, many adults also choose to consent to destructive behavior.
One may counter-argue that a seven year-old is incapable of understanding sexual intercourse, and that an older individual could easily persuade them to engage in that activity. I would point out that many individuals over the age of majority are equally unsure of sex and capable of being persuaded to engage in that activity by more experienced (even predatorial) individuals. Just as a major may give consent for a dangerous activity, so should a minor be able.
It would then seem that the only purpose of minimum age laws is to give the government/society ample time to condition/brainwash children before letting them make decisions. In a free society, the legislature shouldn't have the power to manipulate innocent individuals in such a way.
Note: the common counter to my example of a seven year-old engaging in sex is that I would feel differently if it was my daughter. I do have a seven year-old little sister, which I protect as a daughter. A child knows when the difference between playing "I'll show you mine if you show me yours with the little boy across the street and being forced to do something they want to. The former is a case of natural curiosity, the latter is sexual assault and a crime regardless of age. |
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I'll agree to that. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 04:54:28 |
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Completely agree. | by Sehmket | 2002-08-26 08:11:45 |
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This is why namecalling is a good thing. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 09:13:52 |
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You can always look at them and say | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 09:19:58 |
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Now that's a valid point. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 09:36:36 |
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nitpick: | by Valkyrja | 2002-08-26 15:50:05 |
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The reason for minimum age laws isn't | by Blackbyrd2 | 2002-08-26 04:55:44 |
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But neither can most "adults". | by slayer | 2002-08-26 05:03:43 |
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Even then, a lot don't get it the first time. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 05:08:00 |
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The fact that an adult knows the consequences | by Blackbyrd2 | 2002-08-26 20:14:17 |
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I smell a flame war, but here's my opinion: | by chuckab | 2002-08-26 05:10:42 |
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On Liqour; | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 05:17:42 |
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Agreed | by traffic_hazard | 2002-08-26 06:17:54 |
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The problem is: | by plblark | 2002-08-26 06:22:26 |
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Very true | by traffic_hazard | 2002-08-26 06:24:20 |
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this 14yo is 3 feet taller than your mother? | by ma petite | 2002-08-26 08:03:04 |
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My mom is 4 and a half feet tall, | by caffine-iv | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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*lart* | by slayer | 2002-08-26 08:11:28 |
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Yeah God | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:13:30 |
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It was far from personal. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:20:05 |
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since this is an electronic medium | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:23:39 |
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What? I'm perfectly reasonable. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 08:25:49 |
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Oh pleae, please, please | by slayer | 2002-08-26 08:30:17 |
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ROTFLMAO, What I intended .. . | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:35:05 |
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Well, until I read the bit about | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 09:28:08 |
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Down Naruk | by slayer | 2002-08-26 09:42:10 |
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{{{slayer}}} | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 09:43:24 |
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I have watched the posts in this | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 11:09:54 |
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thanks (n/t) | by ma petite | 2002-08-26 18:56:54 |
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De nada. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 19:19:29 |
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blah. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:27:30 |
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i said IF your mother is 5 feet tall | by ma petite | 2002-08-26 08:35:09 |
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That's okay, he's hypothetically challenged. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 09:24:37 |
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thank you (n/t) | by ma petite | 2002-08-26 09:25:30 |
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saying someone is 3 feet taller than someone else | by ma petite | 2002-08-26 08:33:16 |
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I haven't hid who I am so back down. (n/t) | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:41:48 |
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Just out of curiosity | by slayer | 2002-08-26 08:45:27 |
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I'm just replying :P | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:48:19 |
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well then let's not push it | by slayer | 2002-08-26 08:53:48 |
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*pats slayer on back* (n/t) | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:59:46 |
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I'd call it more Hyperbole than anything else | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:51:12 |
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My cup is broke. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:55:02 |
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Disagree | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 08:51:07 |
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Your son/daughter probebly doesn't | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:53:05 |
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A Single Case of Beer | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 08:57:01 |
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How does tolerance figure into those blood alcohol | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:58:53 |
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Tolerance | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 09:34:12 |
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But that will also be sufficient | by slayer | 2002-08-26 08:58:53 |
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Or longer if they kill themselves | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 09:25:30 |
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We should be that lucky :) (n/t) | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 09:40:22 |
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But it should be an individual's decision | by slayer | 2002-08-26 05:21:15 |
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Incorrect | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 09:22:22 |
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Equal yes, but not free. (n/t) | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 09:25:36 |
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Thanks for wishing luck. | by slayer | 2002-08-26 09:27:18 |
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That's a mighty big IF... | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 09:35:51 |
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Proof of what?(n/t) | by slayer | 2002-08-26 09:45:02 |
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It Does Hurt Others | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 09:46:52 |
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No quite | by slayer | 2002-08-26 09:55:55 |
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Mind-altering substances by definition | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 11:13:25 |
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Or Charly | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 11:32:26 |
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Danke gozaimasu. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 11:51:06 |
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I agree. | by plblark | 2002-08-26 05:43:59 |
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But fiscal responsbility | by slayer | 2002-08-26 06:13:02 |
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fortunately, luckypup was more eloquent than I | by plblark | 2002-08-26 06:17:33 |
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I think | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 06:25:04 |
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A correction | by Maluga | 2002-08-26 07:19:50 |
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At which time, | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 07:24:36 |
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wouldn't that raise the dependance of minors | by plblark | 2002-08-26 07:26:12 |
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Hmmm... that makes sense | by paradigmxp | 2002-08-26 10:49:58 |
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DOTD | by luckypup | 2002-08-26 05:48:40 |
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AMEN!!! (n/t) | by Crash_ | 2002-08-26 06:35:15 |
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But some people never manage that. | by SaleGamine | 2002-08-26 06:41:27 |
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Heu.... come to think of it... | by SaleGamine | 2002-08-26 06:44:52 |
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Good points all... | by plblark | 2002-08-26 06:51:52 |
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Amen, to the both of you. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 06:45:24 |
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You are Mistaken | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 10:03:53 |
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But that is a right every parent has. | by slayer | 2002-08-26 06:50:16 |
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yes, yes, no, and no, respectively (n/t) | by kingoffools | 2002-08-26 14:41:35 |
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Absolutely right . . . | by Maluga | 2002-08-26 07:51:09 |
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LART. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 07:57:08 |
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but... | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:04:28 |
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figures have been shown... | by theonlyphreak | 2002-08-26 08:24:16 |
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Remember to turn in your rights at the door... | by plblark | 2002-08-26 07:59:31 |
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So...maybe the system is broken? | by kingoffools | 2002-08-26 14:48:22 |
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BTW, I second the LART | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:10:23 |
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Sarcasm | by Maluga | 2002-08-26 08:33:17 |
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Scary indeed | by plblark | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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You did it too well. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 09:22:01 |
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It Is Illegal | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 10:10:20 |
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I thought that just applied to food stamps | by slayer | 2002-08-26 10:14:35 |
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Any Goverment Money | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 10:16:56 |
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By-passing the law | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 10:17:47 |
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How I remember it. | by slayer | 2002-08-26 10:21:53 |
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Sell Them | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 11:42:15 |
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And to end hunger, we should eat babies! (n/t) | by kingoffools | 2002-08-26 14:43:06 |
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Ok... | by Sehmket | 2002-08-26 08:25:42 |
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Then do what everyone else did... | by ToLazyToThink | 2002-08-26 17:34:52 |
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I don't think so. | by bugarup | 2002-08-26 05:52:33 |
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But all you're advocating | by slayer | 2002-08-26 06:28:35 |
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I experienced a near drunken state once. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 06:32:33 |
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Sure ... | by bugarup | 2002-08-26 06:38:01 |
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How doe lowering hte age of consent protect? | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 06:43:00 |
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Why? | by SaleGamine | 2002-08-26 06:45:48 |
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Nah, only in certain places. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 06:48:29 |
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Yes, but the more of us there will be | by SaleGamine | 2002-08-26 06:54:55 |
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Unless at least one of the people is intelligent, | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 06:56:31 |
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Employs them as labor or ... | by plblark | 2002-08-26 06:57:57 |
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Yuck! | by SaleGamine | 2002-08-26 07:03:44 |
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Actually, I thikn cafine-iv was... :-) | by plblark | 2002-08-26 07:05:18 |
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Oh, and employing them as labour | by SaleGamine | 2002-08-26 07:05:21 |
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Who said anything about them giving free labor? | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 07:12:45 |
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Yes. On what land? | by SaleGamine | 2002-08-26 07:26:53 |
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Or in Alaska's back yard. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 07:28:08 |
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And soooo easy to farm? | by SaleGamine | 2002-08-26 07:29:41 |
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Yes it is. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 07:35:17 |
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What about: | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:06:10 |
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Actually we just have too low a population | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:08:51 |
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ANd it eould cost too much | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:16:03 |
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There should be a minimum age for posting! | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:16:36 |
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Shipping would go down, | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:17:43 |
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Right but you're still a LONG way | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:24:46 |
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Not really. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:31:17 |
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Wish I could find the link but | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:37:08 |
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You don't get it. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:40:07 |
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Yep, I DON"T get it. | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:47:31 |
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Actually junkfood is incredibly cheap. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:50:44 |
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OK, my knowledge is second hand at best | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:55:44 |
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Oh and you simile is barter economy. | by SaleGamine | 2002-08-26 07:31:13 |
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You're just picking apart an analogy. (n/t) | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 07:35:52 |
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You’re just propping up an analogy | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:08:16 |
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Still finite resources. | by SaleGamine | 2002-08-26 07:01:13 |
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Thats where hte intelligent person | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 07:02:17 |
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Yes and is is competition with the 149 | by SaleGamine | 2002-08-26 07:06:46 |
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Either is in competition with the 149 | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 07:10:27 |
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But eventually, there are so many people | by plblark | 2002-08-26 07:14:23 |
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Thank you | by SaleGamine | 2002-08-26 07:18:11 |
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This is true | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 07:18:35 |
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Still not. | by SaleGamine | 2002-08-26 07:25:16 |
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Not neccessarily | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 07:39:23 |
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Or possibly you've come to an agreement. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 07:41:15 |
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There is only so much land to grow | by SaleGamine | 2002-08-26 07:20:47 |
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Jesus H Christos, that's stupid. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 08:36:19 |
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so do you think a 6 year old should be allowed | by ma petite | 2002-08-26 07:59:21 |
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If he can reach the pedals and | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:01:05 |
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No such thing as a "free society". | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 08:33:09 |
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There is also no such thing | by slayer | 2002-08-26 09:49:29 |
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What? Try? | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 09:54:07 |
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What about working with things as they are? | by kingoffools | 2002-08-26 15:02:56 |
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Not quite the same thing. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 10:58:27 |
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Freedom == Anarchy | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 12:29:47 |
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Thank you. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 12:57:16 |
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Your Welcome (n/t) | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 13:06:53 |
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Spoilsport. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 13:47:42 |
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Always (n/t) | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 14:01:00 |
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I beg to differ... | by kingoffools | 2002-08-26 15:08:56 |
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Pack or tribe means organization. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 15:18:34 |
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Trying again... | by kingoffools | 2002-08-26 15:32:25 |
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Ah, that's better then. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 16:06:18 |
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Here here! | by kingoffools | 2002-08-26 15:00:46 |
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What Limit do You Propose Then? | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 12:04:27 |
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"By setting a date, there is nothing left..." | by kingoffools | 2002-08-26 15:10:55 |
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Problem: | by amlethus | 2002-08-26 05:53:38 |
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well... | by plblark | 2002-08-26 05:56:35 |
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Public Intoxication of a Minor. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 05:58:26 |
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Same with drug use | by Crash_ | 2002-08-26 06:33:58 |
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Blah, lie detector tests are hooey. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 06:41:30 |
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The problem with Lie-detector tests | by plblark | 2002-08-26 06:47:21 |
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I was asked a lot of basic questions to set the | by Crash_ | 2002-08-26 06:59:18 |
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No, the problem is | by flamebait | 2002-08-26 12:29:59 |
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Hypothetically Speaking/Question | by AdMan | 2002-08-26 06:24:37 |
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But all prostitutes MUST be US citizens. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 09:38:19 |
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Is that fair? | by AdMan | 2002-08-26 11:17:48 |
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Immigrants | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 11:43:03 |
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Look at the situation in Holland. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 11:47:29 |
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Sex Slave Market? | by AdMan | 2002-08-26 12:17:53 |
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I'm talking about the workers IN that city. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 12:54:55 |
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Maybe the real discussion is: | by plblark | 2002-08-26 06:33:44 |
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Exactly. | by bugarup | 2002-08-26 06:43:02 |
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But my point is still | by slayer | 2002-08-26 07:00:07 |
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Oh, they definitely should. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 09:34:51 |
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From what I have read, I think a big problem | by Crash_ | 2002-08-26 06:46:04 |
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I just saw my misspelled word | by Crash_ | 2002-08-26 06:55:25 |
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I have strong opinions on this subject. | by Llyr | 2002-08-26 07:25:36 |
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You're not old enough to have an opinion. | by nin_man | 2002-08-26 07:29:17 |
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Don't get me started. :P (n/t) | by Llyr | 2002-08-26 07:37:24 |
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You're not old enough to get started, either. :D | by nin_man | 2002-08-26 08:06:47 |
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ROTFLMAO!!! | by Crash_ | 2002-08-26 08:11:29 |
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*LARTs Llyr with cinder block* | by slayer | 2002-08-26 07:38:50 |
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He's not dead, he's just pining for the fjords! | by Llyr | 2002-08-26 07:41:02 |
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Pining for the fjords?!? | by YakkoWarner | 2002-08-26 09:13:22 |
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Great fun! | by Llyr | 2002-08-26 11:34:42 |
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I would've, but I didn't live there long. | by YakkoWarner | 2002-08-26 11:57:26 |
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Actually, I like the DotD idea | by plblark | 2002-08-26 09:02:17 |
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All forms, huh? | by nin_man | 2002-08-26 07:28:32 |
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I'de agree to that too! | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 07:30:25 |
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That's because you live in Alaska. | by nin_man | 2002-08-26 08:01:08 |
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Thats where this thing called parenting | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:04:11 |
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Parenting? What's that? | by nin_man | 2002-08-26 08:13:24 |
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If the kids didn't want to work, | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:16:55 |
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Not if he knows how to read. | by nin_man | 2002-08-26 08:26:16 |
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What I read was that | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:33:31 |
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I would, yes. | by nin_man | 2002-08-26 08:38:39 |
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I agree with you (amazing :) | by i_am_pi | 2002-08-26 08:58:11 |
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You haven't heard of any loopholes... | by nin_man | 2002-08-26 09:04:41 |
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"Oh My God, They're Comming Right For Us!" | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 09:06:07 |
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Ah, great South Park line. | by slayer | 2002-08-26 09:10:19 |
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Unfortunately, no... | by i_am_pi | 2002-08-26 09:08:00 |
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Wrong | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 12:50:12 |
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Work or starve | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 12:58:20 |
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Third option: mooch. | by NOLAWitch | 2002-08-26 13:05:12 |
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Mooch Off the Goverment/Society | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 13:08:48 |
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Addendum | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 13:22:13 |
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Go to Colorado | by Crash_ | 2002-08-26 08:18:01 |
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Well did hte kid ask, or was he forced into it? | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:22:17 |
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i seriously doubt a kid that age asked to do it | by ma petite | 2002-08-26 08:31:44 |
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In which case it's wrong. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:37:53 |
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opportunity Cost | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:43:48 |
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No, since I never felt bad. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:45:54 |
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But you were, in a barter economy | by plblark | 2002-08-26 08:48:38 |
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Hey, thats a good point :) (n/t) | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:51:38 |
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Considering the cost of living in | by NavyJoe | 2002-08-26 08:41:34 |
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A Six Year Old | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 12:53:22 |
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How do you know? Did you ask the 6 year old? (n/t) | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 13:28:51 |
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No | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 13:47:48 |
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I once worked 60 hours in 3 days... | by ToLazyToThink | 2002-08-26 15:55:35 |
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Yup | by slayer | 2002-08-26 07:33:33 |
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I think it shows hte kid is responsible. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 07:37:41 |
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No, the responsible kid would say | by Crash_ | 2002-08-26 08:13:32 |
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It is supporting the family tho. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 08:15:07 |
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Rather than basing it on age, | by flamebait | 2002-08-26 08:27:40 |
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But what about | by slayer | 2002-08-26 08:34:20 |
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You made a false assumption. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 08:59:24 |
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You may be correct, however... | by slayer | 2002-08-26 09:05:09 |
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Do we as a society have the right | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 09:15:40 |
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now THAT is a great way to heat up this discussion | by plblark | 2002-08-26 09:16:55 |
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;-) | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 09:33:05 |
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and usually succeed | by plblark | 2002-08-26 09:50:27 |
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If they can't handle the though process | by flamebait | 2002-08-26 10:21:23 |
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Please Calrify | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 13:04:09 |
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Disagree | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 13:15:08 |
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Some Were | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 13:30:46 |
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Agree, completely <n/t/a/a> | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 13:36:19 |
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Calrification ;-) | by flamebait | 2002-08-26 13:30:58 |
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Bar/Bat Mitzvah | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 13:40:43 |
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Not quite. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 13:46:52 |
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Been Tried, Doesn't Work | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 13:56:42 |
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Moral Test | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 14:21:59 |
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Exactly | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 14:27:53 |
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Give specifics please. | by flamebait | 2002-08-26 14:34:08 |
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Minimum ages and maturity | by cristobal | 2002-08-26 08:54:54 |
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That's priceless! | by kahuana | 2002-08-26 10:03:53 |
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Vote | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 10:12:52 |
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Really? | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 10:56:16 |
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Vote for the party/person who would oppose | by plblark | 2002-08-26 10:59:22 |
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Er, that's too much like prediction. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 11:18:27 |
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I wouldn't do that | by plblark | 2002-08-26 11:22:33 |
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What Constraint Do you Propose | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 13:16:21 |
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Quoting myself from above | by cristobal | 2002-08-26 13:25:51 |
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Sense? Yeah | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 13:33:32 |
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That's not the Question | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 13:41:51 |
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An answer | by cristobal | 2002-08-26 13:56:10 |
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We Agree, | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 14:21:05 |
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admittedly silly nitpick | by Nea | 2002-08-26 14:32:11 |
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All forms would include criminal prosecution. | by kahuana | 2002-08-26 09:48:30 |
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From what I've seen... | by Avium | 2002-08-26 09:50:33 |
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Which is why there *must* be | by kahuana | 2002-08-26 09:59:34 |
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Personally, I tend to agree. | by Avium | 2002-08-26 10:14:05 |
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Inertia | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 10:25:11 |
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What's being lost is personal autonomy. | by slayer | 2002-08-26 10:32:21 |
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Here's a bit of bits to throw into the bag. | by caffine-iv | 2002-08-26 10:55:50 |
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Equality | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 11:27:50 |
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and some tidbits.... | by webishop | 2002-08-26 12:51:22 |
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I agree...mostly. | by Avium | 2002-08-26 13:13:31 |
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perhaps what we are seeing | by webishop | 2002-08-26 13:20:10 |
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The Problem Is That | by rwrannells | 2002-08-26 13:24:51 |
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Individual interpretation??! | by kingoffools | 2002-08-26 15:43:22 |
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Simple (perhaps overly so) | by kingoffools | 2002-08-26 15:40:30 |
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Doesn't answer the question | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 15:51:20 |
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...True enough. (n/t) | by kingoffools | 2002-08-26 16:01:07 |
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That's something I would like to see. | by nin_man | 2002-08-26 09:58:13 |
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Not at all. Parents couldn't be held responsible | by kahuana | 2002-08-26 10:08:22 |
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Any Japanese UFies out there? | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 11:01:13 |
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Both parts are shocking to me. | by plblark | 2002-08-26 11:11:11 |
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Japanese UFies are shocking? | by Avium | 2002-08-26 11:46:14 |
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They can't pronounce it, for one. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 11:50:06 |
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Jumping: Shocking, Company Damages: Shocking | by plblark | 2002-08-26 12:05:25 |
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Possibly ... | by cristobal | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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The Equation | by tadthornhill | 2002-08-26 12:32:12 |
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So then... | by kingoffools | 2002-08-26 15:47:10 |
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Happens all the time here in Vancouver | by Kickstart | 2002-08-26 11:48:55 |
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A news reference: | by Kickstart | 2006-11-19 12:55:59 |
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Equally bad is what happens in USA. | by NOLAWitch | 2002-08-26 12:22:03 |
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Your argument is illogical ... | by hyzenthlay | 2002-08-26 13:41:14 |
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<nimoy>That is not logical, Captain.</nimoy> (n/t) | by Llyr | 2002-08-26 13:51:14 |
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But my parents are idiots... | by Kickstart | 2002-08-26 16:42:12 |
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Awww, but the latter is much cooler. | by Nea | 2002-08-26 16:49:57 |
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If that's the case... | by nin_man | 2002-08-26 19:37:32 |
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Just make sure it's a night flight. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 19:47:38 |
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yeah, he started to smell really bad | by Kickstart | 2002-08-26 20:52:27 |
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What? For him or for me? | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 21:51:02 |
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Shows what you know. | by Naruki | 2002-08-26 18:35:28 |
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All for it | by tigermouse | 2002-08-26 20:08:10 |
