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New wrench thrown in the wheel by crash_2006-11-19 12:55:59
  Isn't... by warhawk2002-07-12 06:56:25
    How about the original line? by eriq642002-07-12 07:42:54
      God... by warhawk2002-07-12 08:06:07
        God vs. god by flamebait2002-07-12 08:21:49
          How do you... by warhawk2002-07-12 08:55:56
            Hypocrite. by Naruki2002-07-12 09:08:29
              Hmm... by warhawk2002-07-12 09:21:01
                If that WERE true... by Naruki2002-07-12 09:38:31
                  Alrighty then... by warhawk2002-07-12 10:09:54
                    Sorry. You just made the stupidest argument by Naruki2002-07-12 10:25:54
                      It was you... by warhawk2002-07-12 10:41:18
                        Put down the marijuana pipe, w... by Naruki2002-07-12 12:20:53
                          *BUZZ!* by warhawk 2002-07-12 12:35:46
Wrong answer!

There is NO discrimination against anyone by leaving it in its original form.

There IS discrimination against many people by leaving it in the current form.
As mentioned before, there are those who prefer leaving it as it is, believing that it's an accurate and fitting representation of the intent of the pledge. Changing it would discriminate against their choice and preference, yes?

The fact that it was changed fifty years ago is irrelevant at this point, as a good number of the people responsible are likely taking dirt naps and not accepting phone calls. ;) Seriously, though, two wrongs do not make a right, and until a greater consensus is reached that it SHOULD be changed then it should be left as is. Petition your congressman, conduct rallies, get your local station to air your views and convince people that it should be changed... do this, manage to get it to stick, and I'll agree.

Every argument I've seen for leaving it in applied better 50 years ago than it does today, and not a single one of them counters the fact that today's form is unconstitutional.
The Supreme Court has made no ruling that it is unconstitutional, so it's not, period. Go through the earlier-mentioned steps and get them to rethink it, they just might decide that it is. That's not, however, going to be accomplished by pulpit-bangers on public boards doing nothing more than attacking the pledge. More effective methods are available to any willing to pursue them to the bitter end, through all adversity, and THAT is what makes our system work... most of the time.

*chuckles* There's one thing I appreciate about you, Naruki, and that's the simple fact that you can engage in a logical debate without descending to nothing more than mud-slinging... Call me a hypocrite again and you're a big ol' doody-head! ;p
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                            Changing it back by flamebait2002-07-12 13:12:53
                              Depends on the reasoning... by warhawk2002-07-12 13:25:50
                                No it doesn't. by Naruki2002-07-12 14:25:00
                            That's from the liquor you've been drinking. by Naruki2002-07-12 14:34:12
                              Hmm... by warhawk2002-07-12 15:02:22
                                Correction... by warhawk2002-07-12 15:04:52
                                But that is the ONLY reason it was changed. by Naruki2002-07-12 15:28:47
                                Provocation? by warhawk2002-07-12 20:48:20

 

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