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<sigh> Please forgive my country, as it seems by adiplomat 2006-11-19 12:55:59
we are about to start another war. I cannot support this idiots (Bush) policies, not when he insists on starting a war with no proof that the other country has done us or anyone outside Iraq any harm since the Gulf War.

If there is anything other than informing my congresscritters that I do not want this war that I can do to stop it, I don't see how. US UFies, write Congress, please! UFies elsewhere, write your government and urge that they withdraw any support for the US if we attack Iraq. I just can't see killing people who aren't doing us any harm.
[ Reply ]
  The sad thing is by SaleGamine2002-07-09 00:33:29
    hmm well the scary thing is by Arienadean2002-07-09 00:45:14
      Yes I know. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 00:59:01
        There is a problem with that logic... by cural2002-07-09 07:43:14
          Yeah, and what about treaties... by NOLAWitch2002-07-09 09:58:36
          Humm, but Canada and the UK by SaleGamine2002-07-09 10:26:05
            Just have to ask... by Ravenlock2002-07-09 12:34:56
        Immigration by Y2KDragon2002-07-09 10:33:10
          To become Swiss? by SaleGamine2002-07-09 10:50:27
          *can i answer?* *please!* *please!* by kahuana2002-07-09 10:56:44
      Human Rights violations by digitig2002-07-09 06:32:21
        I can't imagine M. Albright saying anything by kahuana2002-07-09 08:28:32
          And the "fact" that they were all children. by Naruki2002-07-09 10:11:09
            People starving in Iraq by Atanamis2002-07-09 10:25:13
    You could always threaten to... by breezeblock2002-07-09 01:22:46
      Hummm, that might work. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:29:52
    wait a second.... by Control2002-07-09 08:39:12
      No prob. Go for it. by NOLAWitch2002-07-09 09:10:19
  Aw mannn... by Eco2002-07-09 00:33:43
  Ye bloody gods... by hitomi2002-07-09 00:34:13
  Not "another" war... by Ouaff2002-07-09 00:38:21
  "a-political blues" by Ragueneau2002-07-09 00:38:27
  The Revolution by InfaZorak2002-07-09 00:58:37
    Of course it's the older ones screaming for war! by breezeblock2002-07-09 01:31:45
    so by magedrake 00012002-07-09 05:45:44
      But who is in the right? by digitig2002-07-09 06:47:33
        And it's never just one person either by Eco2002-07-09 07:23:45
      hmm.... by Control2002-07-09 08:55:11
        Actually by Atanamis2002-07-09 10:32:04
    Grups by eriq642002-07-09 10:12:17
    Hate to break it to you... by Naruki2002-07-09 10:20:38
  To quote himself : by aix tom2002-07-09 01:04:59
    I totally agree by The Moose2002-07-09 01:24:09
      Yes, very scary. (n/t) by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:27:46
  I am looking forward to the US invading Holland! by bavvy2002-07-09 01:19:27
    Yes I know. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:21:20
      Actually... by Eco2002-07-09 01:22:13
        Pitr is evil, Bush is ignorant by bavvy2002-07-09 01:27:55
          That's even more frightening (n/t) by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:30:54
          Not quite. BOTH are evil... by Naruki2002-07-09 10:24:14
            LOL by SaleGamine2002-07-09 11:03:12
    Bush is correct. by slayer2002-07-09 01:35:51
      But by what right by bavvy2002-07-09 01:40:25
        Yes. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:47:32
          Next thing by bavvy2002-07-09 01:50:32
          Exactly. by Eco2002-07-09 01:51:41
            And if they don't the whole point is lost. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:54:57
              contrary opinion...... by sumbusch2002-07-09 08:49:17
                You have points but by SaleGamine2002-07-09 09:59:22
                  Yes and.. by Eco2002-07-09 10:12:40
                  Not to mention we are NOT by Naruki2002-07-09 10:27:54
                    Didn't you hear about by Nea2002-07-09 10:41:07
                      Oooh, did it get the Wall, too? by Naruki2002-07-09 11:01:42
                        Yeah, it's gone. by Nea2002-07-09 11:17:31
                          Not since I got busted for spitting. by Naruki2002-07-09 11:23:17
                            That must have been by Nea2002-07-09 11:29:24
                              It started soft and slow... by Naruki2002-07-09 13:47:19
                                *chuckle* by Nea2002-07-09 14:07:23
                          Aaaaaaaaa! by SaleGamine2002-07-09 11:35:56
                  please note.... by sumbusch2002-07-09 22:40:22
                    Sorry, I didn't mean to make it look by SaleGamine2002-07-09 22:55:47
        Iraq gave up some national sovereignty by slayer2002-07-09 01:48:27
          Ok. You realise that turn about is fair play? by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:52:34
            We don't have that right. by slayer2002-07-09 01:55:33
              Yes you do. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:57:17
              So... by Eco2002-07-09 01:58:28
                Very true. (n/t) by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:59:03
                I agree (n/t) by bavvy2002-07-09 02:01:09
                It's no more a punishment by slayer2002-07-09 03:23:16
                  Down boy... by Eco2002-07-09 03:37:09
                    You'r absolutely right. by slayer2002-07-09 03:52:21
                      And Hence Hague.. by Eco2002-07-09 03:58:55
              Indefinite imprisonment by Pic2002-07-09 06:15:43
                <sarcasm>But that doesn't matter does it? by SaleGamine2002-07-09 06:30:50
                  They're plainly guilty of being unAmerican anyway. (n/t) by digitig2002-07-09 06:53:18
          That's the exact point! by bavvy2002-07-09 01:54:54
          But... by Eco2002-07-09 01:56:23
            Global politics doesn't mean global state by slayer2002-07-09 02:02:17
              United STATES, isn't it? by bavvy2002-07-09 02:05:17
                There is that. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 02:07:55
                  Good point! (n/t) by bavvy2002-07-09 02:12:45
                  Unfortunately, that question was resolved by adiplomat2002-07-09 02:19:24
                    Taxation without representation by digitig2002-07-09 06:55:33
                      Wrong war. The Civil War was "fourscore and by adiPlomat2002-07-09 07:38:52
              Having a special judiciary authority by SaleGamine2002-07-09 02:05:32
              Another but... by Eco2002-07-09 02:07:56
                Good example! by bavvy2002-07-09 02:12:01
              NO! by Naruki2002-07-09 10:36:41
                I don't think that is what slayer said. by flamebait2002-07-09 14:48:10
                  To a point, yes. by Naruki2002-07-09 15:22:26
                    I didn't say I agreed with him. ;-) by flamebait2002-07-09 15:34:15
                      I figured that. by Naruki2002-07-09 15:38:07
          Hmmm... So if I put a gun to your head, by adiplomat2002-07-09 02:13:52
            I do have that right by slayer2002-07-09 02:20:55
              I would say some pressure was involved by bavvy2002-07-09 02:25:17
                The same pressure, but not the same circumstance. by slayer2002-07-09 02:30:58
                  I agree by bavvy2002-07-09 02:34:22
                    It is normal. by slayer2002-07-09 02:37:57
                      Again by bavvy2002-07-09 02:51:19
                        Not twisted. by slayer2002-07-09 03:30:25
                          Peace cannot be brought by force by bavvy2002-07-09 04:12:58
                            Sure it can. by JPaganel2002-07-09 08:55:59
                              Vendetta by Argos2002-07-09 09:48:34
                              On T-Shirt by magedrake 00012002-07-09 13:01:07
              So now we're down to the truth. by adiplomat2002-07-09 02:31:49
                Nice strawman. by slayer2002-07-09 02:41:08
                  ANY agreement made under duress by adiplomat2002-07-09 02:45:32
              So what you are saying is : by SaleGamine2002-07-09 02:33:34
              Maybe that is why international law is started by bavvy2002-07-09 02:38:02
            No, he's saying by ToLazyToThink2002-07-09 06:41:04
              Seems to me that no one by nix2002-07-09 08:26:02
                Of Course... by Atanamis2002-07-09 11:17:33
      By the reasoning by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:41:55
        My point exactly (n/t) by bavvy2002-07-09 01:42:51
          Yes I know. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:45:01
        That is my point. by slayer2002-07-09 01:52:38
          No, because that is another basic human right by bavvy2002-07-09 01:57:35
            Yes. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 02:02:23
            Freedom of speech is not a human right by slayer2002-07-09 02:06:35
              It's in the by SaleGamine2002-07-09 02:08:50
              Humans are not cruel by bavvy2002-07-09 02:10:24
                Oh yeah? by breezeblock2002-07-09 02:15:21
                  The fact that it is not respected by bavvy2002-07-09 02:23:49
                    Sorry to disappoint you but it does. by breezeblock2002-07-09 03:02:18
                      That same thing can be said by bavvy2002-07-09 03:14:22
                        Much simpler than emotions. by breezeblock2002-07-09 03:50:39
                          Instinct, eh? by bavvy2002-07-09 04:07:06
                            Not holding back by breezeblock2002-07-09 05:38:19
                      "Right" does not mean bullet-proof by tigermouse2002-07-09 04:50:42
                        Seems that our definition of "right" are confused! by breezeblock2002-07-09 05:01:49
                          *Hurks enormous stone at breezeblock* by tigermouse2002-07-09 05:11:41
                            In whose eye? by breezeblock2002-07-09 05:22:02
                              ...and furthermore! by breezeblock2002-07-09 05:53:57
                                Well with arguments like that... by The Moose2002-07-09 06:26:58
                                Now you're just being silly! by tigermouse2002-07-09 06:30:11
                                Just a quote that popped into my mind by bavvy2002-07-09 06:38:12
                                Aaaggghh! by breezeblock2002-07-09 06:45:39
                                I still disagree, semantically by tigermouse2002-07-09 06:56:58
                                What if there were no more hypotheticals? by adiPlomat2002-07-09 07:26:19
                                Nah, it's more fun in mine! (n/t) by breezeblock2002-07-09 07:42:30
                                I'm with you on this one. by Naruki2002-07-09 10:54:27
                                mmm, okay by tigermouse2002-07-09 11:40:47
                                Naruki didn't say that at all. Reread hir post. by flamebait2002-07-09 13:45:33
                                hmm, still reads that way to me by tigermouse2002-07-09 14:47:09
                                You keep using words you cannot define by Naruki2002-07-09 15:11:56
                                Nooooo! by tigermouse2002-07-09 16:22:08
                                I'll make this as painless as possible... by Naruki2002-07-09 18:24:51
                                Oh dear by tigermouse2002-07-09 19:35:38
                                For one thing, the definition you insist on using by flamebait2006-11-19 12:55:59
                                2 for you, 0 for me. ;-( by Naruki2002-07-09 15:23:52
                                Naruki, you're beautiful by tigermouse2002-07-09 16:45:59
                                why not? by tigermouse2002-07-09 16:35:39
                                There is a new lifeform called "throbble". by Naruki2002-07-09 17:37:55
                                Throbbly ones, I spose by tigermouse2002-07-09 18:09:57
                                Slowly. by Naruki2002-07-09 18:27:10
                                If these beasties exist by tigermouse2002-07-09 19:42:59
                                Rights... by slacktime2002-07-09 15:37:03
                                Not bad at all, for a godchild. by Naruki2002-07-09 15:57:51
                                Ahh but by slacktime2002-07-09 16:10:35
                                Totally wrong. by Naruki2002-07-09 17:36:42
                                Ah Naruki too bad by slacktime2002-07-09 22:08:48
                                It would be nice by tigermouse2002-07-09 16:42:19
                                Exactly! a voice of reason! by breezeblock2002-07-09 15:28:42
                                Don't sweat it. by Naruki2002-07-09 15:30:50
                                Just try me! by breezeblock2002-07-09 15:40:48
                                Wouldn't help. by Naruki2002-07-09 15:58:56
                                Unfortunately there is! by breezeblock2002-07-09 16:13:37
                                hey, I scraped my knuckles! by tigermouse2002-07-09 16:37:36
                Bush has a simple reason too. by slayer2002-07-09 02:17:36
                  So Kuwait is US territory? by bavvy2002-07-09 02:21:03
                    I didn't say US territory. by slayer2002-07-09 02:24:30
                      So what you are saying is the reason is greed by bavvy2002-07-09 02:27:57
                        "Acquisition of resources" by slayer2002-07-09 02:34:21
                          Not your land by bavvy2002-07-09 02:49:21
                          But those resources aren't yours by SaleGamine2002-07-09 04:48:05
                  Bush ONLY has simple reasons. by Naruki2002-07-09 10:56:51
              This is like reading "Thomas Hobbes" - "Leviathan" by Spisefisken2002-07-09 03:44:31
                D&D alignment of GWB by bavvy2002-07-09 03:57:37
                  Hmm, by Blackbyrd22002-07-09 04:34:25
                    So what you are saying here is.. by breezeblock2002-07-09 04:38:25
                      Ooo. I like it. ;) (n/t) by Blackbyrd22002-07-09 04:41:54
                        Cursed Pretzel of Strangulation +3 by adiplomat2002-07-09 04:49:35
                          ROFL... Can't breathe... too... appropriate by Ravenlock2002-07-09 13:15:51
                    Actually.. by txdadu2002-07-09 09:41:22
              WHERE do you think you have freedom by Naruki2002-07-09 10:44:40
          Awwww by SaleGamine2002-07-09 02:03:49
          On that same note.. by Eco2002-07-09 02:03:57
            Bush does have the right. by slayer2002-07-09 02:13:15
              That is your right by bavvy2002-07-09 02:17:26
                That would be interesting...(n/t) by t95_jas2002-07-09 02:20:11
                The EU would have that right. by slayer2002-07-09 02:28:00
                  In that case, by bavvy2002-07-09 02:29:47
                    It's not you. Slayer would probably feel by adiplomat2002-07-09 02:33:46
                      I admit I'm Machiavellian. by slayer2002-07-09 02:51:44
                        Noone ever said... by Eco2002-07-09 02:54:41
                          But the global climate by slayer2002-07-09 03:12:45
                            The big kid gets the best toys huh? by Eco2002-07-09 03:32:21
                              Good post by SE-sPOON2002-07-09 05:32:18
                                Certainly looks that way doesn't it? by SaleGamine2002-07-09 05:49:05
                                Heck, we won't even pay dues in the club we by adiPlomat2002-07-09 07:43:50
                        Hmmm by bavvy2002-07-09 02:56:20
                          I will share my widom, grasshopper by slayer2002-07-09 03:01:23
                  Back to might makes right? by SaleGamine2002-07-09 05:24:29
              Wait up... by Eco2002-07-09 02:34:29
                The agreement was between the coalition by slayer2002-07-09 02:46:30
                  And the US now attacks by bavvy2002-07-09 02:47:48
                    Or threats, anyway by bavvy2002-07-09 02:48:21
                    Britain and the US are the only active members. by slayer2002-07-09 02:54:20
                      Does anyone besides me.. by Eco2002-07-09 02:56:39
                        Yes. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 05:02:04
                          Not all of us, but a lot of our leadership. :+( by adiplomat2002-07-09 05:18:48
                            Could be. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 05:41:03
                              Darn straight! I'll blacken the eye of anyone who by adiPlomat2002-07-09 07:36:52
                                Depends on the order. by Naruki2002-07-09 11:04:28
                                He did say "legal orders" by SaleGamine2002-07-09 11:13:28
                                True. by Naruki2002-07-09 11:25:59
                                That is a very good point (n/t) by SaleGamine2002-07-09 14:09:06
                                Most troops do get an indoctrination about legal by adiPlomat2002-07-09 18:32:25
                                I agree. by Naruki2002-07-09 18:39:40
                      Active members? by bavvy2002-07-09 02:59:24
                        Active members by slayer2002-07-09 03:02:41
                          I dont remember attacks of Iraq on US or UK....... (n/t) by bavvy2002-07-09 03:04:01
                            They attacked Kuwait by slayer2002-07-09 03:06:51
                              Kuwait =! US OR UK (n/t) by bavvy2002-07-09 03:15:59
                                I didn't say it did. by slayer2002-07-09 03:26:31
                                Why don't we ask the Kuwaitis their by adiplomat2002-07-09 03:28:58
                            Short memory! by breezeblock2002-07-09 03:09:31
                              Ok by bavvy2002-07-09 03:15:26
                              Yep, and... by digitig2002-07-09 07:06:20
                                Touchy subject! by breezeblock2002-07-09 07:27:53
                                The US does not fund the IRA. Some idiots by adiPlomat2002-07-09 07:34:53
                      Remember Bush's recent op? by digitig2002-07-09 07:03:13
                  Still.. by Eco2002-07-09 02:51:52
                    Well said. (n/t) by SaleGamine2002-07-09 04:42:07
              The peace treaty with whom? by digitig2002-07-09 07:00:27
      i have to agree by magedrake 00012002-07-09 05:50:22
  Hey dad! Look what I can do! by breezeblock2002-07-09 01:29:08
    THAT is not a good solution to anything. by adiplomat2002-07-09 02:38:33
      I know the quote, He was one of our kings by breezeblock2002-07-09 03:16:48
        Nope. I WOULD scare the livin' <bleep> by adiplomat2002-07-09 03:26:58
          killing Hitler.... by sumbusch2002-07-09 08:58:13
        Ignoring Godwin's law for half a mo by tigermouse2002-07-09 05:03:21
          I did say it was perverse! by breezeblock2002-07-09 05:12:09
            That's certainly true by tigermouse2002-07-09 06:06:52
              I beg to differ! by breezeblock2002-07-09 06:31:07
                No need to beg! by tigermouse2002-07-09 06:42:15
                  Sorry, this Napoleon job is a bit demanding by breezeblock2002-07-09 06:51:21
                    In that case... by tigermouse2002-07-09 06:58:37
                      <Homer> mmmm port & stilton </Homer> (n/t) by breezeblock2002-07-09 07:17:24
                        Well, that means you'll have to do England, too (n/t) by tigermouse2002-07-09 07:23:14
                          I believe the same would have been said of either by adiPlomat2002-07-09 07:31:53
                            *throws sand at adiplomat* by tigermouse2002-07-09 08:00:59
                          Allegedly! by breezeblock2002-07-09 07:33:27
        I don't know if that would help. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 05:21:25
          Or as Terry Pratchett put it in "Lords and Ladies" by bugarup2002-07-09 06:35:49
      I disagree. by Naruki2002-07-09 11:08:20
  He is not starting a war. by slayer2002-07-09 01:29:29
    But by what right do the Americans by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:34:35
      The danger is not passed by slayer2002-07-09 01:39:37
        Iraq is not likely to try that tactic again by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:44:09
          I beg to differ. by Blackbyrd22002-07-09 03:43:46
            To be fair... by Naruki2002-07-09 11:12:48
              Hmm, by Blackbyrd22002-07-09 19:57:28
          I will have to disagree by magedrake 00012002-07-09 05:22:24
            Only if he thinks he will get away with it by SaleGamine2002-07-09 05:38:28
              are you so sure (n/t) by magedrake 00012002-07-09 05:52:25
                Things are subject tio change of course by SaleGamine2002-07-09 05:57:44
              not saying I support the war... by amlothi2002-07-09 07:17:01
                But if you must stike out at everyone by SaleGamine2002-07-09 09:37:56
      You just answered your own question! by breezeblock2002-07-09 01:39:38
        The oil fields are in Kuwait by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:42:53
          You're thinking too small! by breezeblock2002-07-09 01:45:38
            Geographically, yes by bavvy2002-07-09 01:47:41
              GWB already has his evil empire. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:49:15
              You think he's gonna give a monkeys who.. by breezeblock2002-07-09 01:54:47
                Yes. Need any help? (n/t) by SaleGamine2002-07-09 01:56:00
          Iraq has oil fields too. by flamebait2002-07-09 08:06:44
            I think they also wanted some coast by slacktime2002-07-09 14:12:15
  ugh by DaNutBall2002-07-09 01:33:35
    Actually Bush has lots of support. by slayer2002-07-09 01:42:18
      Nice to see they wanna get reelected by DaNutBall2002-07-09 01:46:58
        well quite by mcnutcase2002-07-09 02:26:15
      How else would they drive their SUV's cheap? (n/t) by Beavis2002-07-09 05:19:58
  That's just so Dubya. by bugarup2002-07-09 04:20:17
    I didn't read the whole story. by Blackbyrd22002-07-09 04:26:55
      Peanuts? by breezeblock2002-07-09 04:35:36
        Hehehe. Nooo. by Blackbyrd22002-07-09 04:39:50
          So that's where Loveshade got that one. ;) by bugarup2002-07-09 06:22:22
            She thoroughly felt up the elephant? by Naruki2002-07-09 11:20:36
  TO DEFLECT ATTENTION FROM CORP SCANDALS! by NOLAWitch2002-07-09 06:09:04
    Well, it is a tried and true technique... by SaleGamine2002-07-09 06:13:07
    And this has never been done before? by breezeblock2002-07-09 06:20:53
      And it wasn't even original then... by SaleGamine2002-07-09 06:28:50
        The difference is that we KNOW about it. by NOLAWitch2002-07-09 06:34:40
          Yes I know. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 06:39:22
          Apathy rules! Who cares? by breezeblock2002-07-09 06:48:18
            There is that. by SaleGamine2002-07-09 06:49:52
              That's why it's important to SPEAK OUT. by NOLAWitch2002-07-09 07:01:28
                Hear hear! by breezeblock2002-07-09 07:13:58
                  I'm a geek; I don't do domestic. by NOLAWitch2002-07-09 07:18:52
                    That is just silly. by JPaganel2002-07-09 08:42:28
                      I didn't say I didn't do for myself. by NOLAWitch2002-07-09 09:06:53
                        May I have seconds.... by NotaGeek2002-07-09 14:09:04
                    Staples work well also by dire_lobo2002-07-09 10:35:35
                      CARFUL? by dire_lobo2002-07-09 10:36:58
                  She's a witch. From Louisiana. You CAN'T run by adiPlomat2002-07-09 07:18:59
                    Oh Dippy! Wanna nice hot juicy crawfish? by NOLAWitch2002-07-09 07:23:24
                      "It's very cold in space..." by adiPlomat2002-07-09 07:29:01
                    Pah! you think i'm gonna get off that light? by breezeblock2002-07-09 08:15:05
                      Are newts tasty? (n/t) by adiPlomat2002-07-09 09:07:32
                        Depends on how you cook 'em. (n/t) by NOLAWitch2002-07-09 09:10:59
  To draw a parallel by txdadu2002-07-09 06:10:21
  I think most of us are aware... by digitig2002-07-09 06:40:21
    The Falklands was a set-up! by breezeblock2006-11-19 12:55:59
  Noam Chomsky was by grovella2006-11-19 12:55:59
    axiom by Caius2002-07-09 10:11:20
      He he he. by Naruki2002-07-09 10:16:28
  Oedipus Strikes Again by ahecht2002-07-09 14:48:41
    Errr.... by Kickstart2002-07-09 17:01:49
      Can he possibly have an Electra by Naruki2002-07-09 18:33:57
  The sad part is by wiseguy5862002-07-09 22:35:17

 

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