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My view on yesterday's posting by leowic 2001-11-07 07:31:54
Yesterday I posted a message that stated "why do you hate Windows" expecting to get the flamed off the board. Surprisingly, that didn't happen. I had many a legitimate post to the question. But very few of the postings gave me any real reason to NOT use Windows.

The primary reasons were semantic at best. Things like "I can't configure it how I want to" or "it won't run on a 486" or "it's too expensive" or even "I shouldn't have to re-register if I make any changes with my computer." These aren't reason to not use a system, these are just people looking for a reason to not like a product. It's tantamount to say "I don't like you because of the shoes that you ware" or "you eat beef so therefore you might kill somebody." Nobody gave me any real reason to change my opinion of Windows.

Microsoft for all it's faults has set forth a great task. They basically said

1. We are going to write a piece of software that will run on almost all hardware made.

2. We don't care what combinations of hardware you have on your computer,

3. It's O.k. if you don't if know much about setting up you computer, our installation process will take care of it.

4. And we are going to do this without looking at your computer once.

That is quite a task, and that is why Microsoft has the market share that it has. No other OS on the market has come any ware close to those goals. And until one does, there will be know contender to Microsoft crown.

The bloatware and feature creeps out there can just get a life. If I here one more person say "why can't I uninstall Internet Explorer" I'm going to flip. Why do you want to remove it. If you don't like it don't use it. It's not costing you anything, and IE by it's self does not have THAT big of a footprint.

Windows (like Linux) is very customizable, if you know what you are doing. Most of the bloat in windows 2000 and XP is there because Microsoft try to keep everybody happy. Securing the OS from shoddy coding of device drivers. Nothing crashes an OS faster than a device driver that is poorly written. Microsoft should take a hint from Apple and say "if you want to write for my OS, then you WILL use these libraries, and these tools. If you don't, its not going to work." You will have a more stable OS, but they would get sued off the planet, so that's not going to happen.

The two that really erks me is the combo of "it cost to much," and "I don't want to register my copy" both of these complaints come from the same source. Piracy. Windows 98 was the most sold program of all time, but more haft of it's price tag was to overcome the software piracy that happened. One study stated that at one point 60% of the computers running windows 98 was pirated. A lot of the time the person didn’t even know that they were using a pirated copy.

The registration process of XP is Microsoft solution to this rampant problem. And therefore they can bring down the cost of the OS. And it's work... XP is less the 2000. I'll be it, not much.

I use Microsoft products because the work, and they do what I need them to do. I also use them because it the OS that my user have at home. I know Novell, Linux, OS X, and have babble in BSD. And I will tell you, I will pick 2000/XP over them all anytime.

And as to the 486 statement, get a new computer. They are not expensive.
[ Reply ]
  Windows Activation by Arcanum2001-11-07 07:46:05
    yup by knowbody2001-11-07 07:55:31
    Arcanum..you are full of crap by logicgate19682001-11-07 08:34:32
      Not yet by migiizis2001-11-07 08:54:05
        And, I wonder what the policy was when... by Beavis2001-11-07 09:30:17
      Fees by neksys2001-11-07 09:03:24
        commission? by knowbody2001-11-07 10:00:48
        You probably have to call something like.. by Halcyon2001-11-07 16:36:20
      A nice quote from your own work by radagast302001-11-07 09:08:18
      he he eheh he.. he said "crap" hehe by Beavis2001-11-07 09:20:57
        that has some purpose by crazysteve2001-11-07 09:37:22
          Crashes and Reboot? now... by Beavis2001-11-07 12:38:17
            that'd be a great idea by crazysteve2001-11-07 13:06:35
        check your memory dump. by leowic2001-11-07 14:29:07
          he hehe ehhehh he said "dump" he hehe eheh ehe ehe by Beavis2001-11-07 14:59:50
      so what's it like? by knowbody2001-11-07 09:55:57
        heh by crazysteve2001-11-07 10:03:02
      And your post by Arcanum2001-11-07 12:35:48
        exactly by knowbody2001-11-07 13:36:05
      why in the HELL.... by ubergeek22001-11-07 13:02:54
        He's probably a MS Marketdroid by Arcanum2001-11-07 13:14:57
        For the three out of four that aren't. (n/t) by nin_man2001-11-07 13:16:20
    XP Product Activation by Village Idiot2001-11-07 09:23:43
      the reason that they don't want you to... by i_am_pi2001-11-07 10:29:07
        yep. by SD Maruko-kun2001-11-07 10:45:08
      so where's the crack to... by knowbody2001-11-07 11:26:03
        Give it time... by Avium2001-11-07 13:55:22
  Huzzah! by nin_man2001-11-07 07:49:48
    We know your excuse by migiizis2001-11-07 07:59:20
  customizable? by knowbody2001-11-07 07:57:55
    It all depends on you view by fick2001-11-07 08:18:51
      Bwahahaha! (n/t) by Beavis2001-11-07 09:09:25
      so... by knowbody2001-11-07 09:52:31
        Haven't heard of it. by fick2001-11-07 10:18:29
          Here's a link. by pecosdave2006-11-19 12:55:59
            I'll check it out. Thanks. (n/t) by fick2001-11-07 12:30:49
            I've tried Litestep by Arcanum2001-11-07 12:48:20
              and all this time... by knowbody2001-11-07 13:27:58
                Oh, I did it... by Arcanum2001-11-07 13:33:06
                  windowblinds isn't part of litestep. by knowbody2001-11-07 13:47:32
                    Yes, but by Arcanum2001-11-07 18:00:59
            more sites by knowbody2001-11-07 13:30:05
    I am not talking themes. by leowic2001-11-07 15:09:26
  Run on almost all hardware made? by radagast302001-11-07 08:18:59
    what about amd? (n/t) by Ma Petite2001-11-07 08:49:30
      Tried it with XP by radagast302001-11-07 09:02:07
      AMD is Still an Intel Architecture. by Beavis2001-11-07 15:22:10
  All we learned yesterday... by nin_man2001-11-07 08:19:35
    Bwhahaha! Supid Penguin ;-) by Beavis2001-11-07 08:54:47
    As opposed to... by special_ed2001-11-07 09:18:24
      heh by crazysteve2001-11-07 09:40:27
        We hate them now? by nin_man2001-11-07 09:50:22
          bah by crazysteve2006-11-19 12:55:59
            Eh. by nin_man2001-11-07 10:02:20
              if I had no other reason by crazysteve2001-11-07 10:09:10
                I'm not a business. by nin_man2001-11-07 10:14:28
                  true by crazysteve2001-11-07 10:17:02
                    Most recently... by nin_man2001-11-07 10:42:07
                      you can do that by crazysteve2001-11-07 11:41:56
                        How about useing the included Novell DOS by pecosdave2001-11-07 11:55:18
                          Novell 5... by nin_man2001-11-07 12:50:50
                            Netware 5 by fredf2001-11-07 23:07:21
          Yes,... by special_ed2001-11-07 09:56:09
            Now when did I ever lie? by nin_man2001-11-07 10:08:55
              See what I mean? by special_ed2001-11-07 10:12:42
                or if madonna did the song for the ads <nt> by crazysteve2001-11-07 10:15:22
                If she just asked me to? by nin_man2001-11-07 10:23:33
              You are so! by Arcanum2001-11-07 11:17:25
                Am not. by nin_man2001-11-07 12:59:06
                  You have to point out by Nea2001-11-07 13:10:39
                    Sorry, the "I like the outdoors" argument doesn't by Arcanum2001-11-07 13:21:46
                      It was just what occurred to me by Nea2001-11-07 13:26:35
                      Okay. by nin_man2001-11-07 13:38:39
                        I cast thee out ye foul demon!! by crazysteve2001-11-07 13:46:49
                          No, no, it's okay. by special_ed2001-11-07 14:03:23
                            Nope, I'm just an idiot. by nin_man2001-11-07 14:18:59
                              I thought that I was paranoid... by leowic2001-11-07 15:20:25
                              Just because you're paranoid... by Arcanum2001-11-07 17:59:52
                        One point. by Avium2001-11-07 14:07:40
                        hm. let's see if i can apply his arguments by PTGMachetti2001-11-07 23:42:50
                  Are so. by Arcanum2001-11-07 13:11:48
                    Actually, by nin_man2001-11-07 14:29:39
                      And what about by JPaganel2001-11-07 14:36:40
                        That... by nin_man2001-11-07 14:56:33
                          My point exactly! (n/t) by JPaganel2001-11-07 15:08:31
  Probably not worth it, but I will try. by Beavis2001-11-07 08:34:24
    Bravo! by seti322001-11-07 13:18:27
      Thanks - Are you running at home? by Beavis2001-11-07 21:26:46
    rebuttal by leowic2001-11-07 16:10:12
      Uhm... by Arcanum2001-11-07 20:55:22
      hehe hehe he said "butt" by Beavis2001-11-07 21:07:30
        Here you go... by Arcanum2001-11-07 21:29:04
          hahaha! it's a folder; no wonder I kept missing it by Beavis2001-11-07 22:20:04
            Sorry, it's not that sophisticated. by Arcanum2001-11-07 22:50:30
              It's not configurable? ;-) (n/t) by Beavis2001-11-07 22:56:55
          I kid you not! It bombed. by Beavis2001-11-07 22:31:13
            I've been getting similar errors by Arcanum2001-11-07 22:52:54
  many small annoyances make a big one... by SD Maruko-kun2001-11-07 08:56:57
    i've seen a really weird glitch with w98 by i_am_pi2001-11-07 10:36:13
      system monitor != top by SD Maruko-kun2001-11-07 11:10:56
  Piracy by neksys2001-11-07 08:57:33
    And you forgot... by seti322001-11-07 13:01:22
      Don't bother with WinXP by Arcanum2001-11-07 13:06:00
        XP is 2000. by Avium2001-11-07 14:19:56
          wow by crazysteve2001-11-07 14:23:33
            God only knows... by Arcanum2006-11-19 12:55:59
  Why Windows Sucks by egaeus2001-11-07 08:58:23
    ditto -exceprt for the choice of replacement by Beavis2001-11-07 09:02:24
      ok but compare that by crazysteve2001-11-07 09:51:45
        Um... by cyrnus2001-11-07 10:15:46
          it does? by crazysteve2001-11-07 10:23:45
            And WordPerfect by migiizis2001-11-07 10:31:20
              Staroffice by Arcanum2001-11-07 12:05:54
                And how well does word handle .sdw or .wpd? (n/t) by migiizis2001-11-07 12:10:02
                  I dunno. Not very well, I suspect. by Arcanum2001-11-07 12:22:55
                    easy fix by crazysteve2001-11-07 12:44:21
                      Unless I'm mistaken by Arcanum2001-11-07 12:46:58
                        I'm sorry... by crazysteve2001-11-07 12:57:03
                          Word is a decent word processor. by Arcanum2001-11-07 13:03:45
                            just watching your tags by crazysteve2001-11-07 13:23:23
                              Ahh, I see. by Arcanum2001-11-07 13:26:09
                                nah by crazysteve2006-11-19 12:55:59
                        Neither by mirage2001-11-07 13:04:18
                          Hmm... by Arcanum2001-11-07 13:16:37
                            The by mirage2001-11-07 13:27:00
                        Yes and No by MikeCDN2001-11-07 14:46:39
                  It handles .wpd excellently. by nin_man2001-11-07 13:05:58
                    Hmm, I by mirage2001-11-07 13:08:23
                      Never a care with Word 2000 by nin_man2001-11-07 13:10:04
                        Oh well, by mirage2001-11-07 13:12:49
      replacement by egaeus2001-11-07 12:58:51
    Nimda and it's spawns by leowic2001-11-07 14:33:17
      but you can't get your eamil by crazysteve2001-11-07 14:38:29
      Nimda by egaeus2001-11-08 07:41:58
    Don't like reinstalling? by fredf2001-11-07 23:28:49
  Why I tell people not to use Windows by Illiad2001-11-07 09:09:29
    "Illiad hath spoken"... ;-) by SD Maruko-kun2001-11-07 09:57:20
    Have you tried 2000 Pro? by Arcanum2001-11-07 11:11:49
      bah! by knowbody2001-11-07 11:15:36
        I can't afford to by Arcanum2001-11-07 11:31:52
          so acrobat is a m$ office format? by knowbody2001-11-07 13:40:21
            But by Arcanum2001-11-07 18:09:29
              Oh, and I just generally dislike the PDF format. by Arcanum2001-11-07 19:07:13
      Yes. by Illiad2001-11-07 11:31:38
        Just a thought... by knightsofni2001-11-07 12:03:14
          Not even a couple hundred by Arcanum2006-11-19 12:55:59
    that's a reason that I can get behind by leowic2001-11-07 15:01:14
      I like 2K by crazysteve2001-11-07 15:49:45
    perhaps by nimdokk2001-11-07 17:15:23
      A vertical split would've been better. by Arcanum2001-11-07 18:11:12
        good point by nimdokk2001-11-07 19:19:02
  Hardware by Kickstart2001-11-07 09:10:32
    On point 4 by radagast302001-11-07 09:37:56
      mobo + CPU changes and Linux by SD Maruko-kun2001-11-07 10:17:42
  You're just looking for an argument by Dutch802006-11-19 12:55:59
    I don't have much time but I want to step in here by vmax2001-11-07 22:56:27
  Not much I like about the modern stuff. by pecosdave2001-11-07 11:35:41
  Oh yes, new computers ARE expensive. by bugarup2001-11-07 11:44:53
    I agree... by Arienadean2001-11-07 13:45:13
    ::Checks dell.com:: by raptor_872001-11-07 17:26:53
      School by neksys2001-11-07 17:42:41
      Yes, it is. by JPaganel2001-11-07 22:38:05

 

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